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Post by kelly on Aug 22, 2007 22:31:34 GMT
I AM A KELLY LIVING IN MINERA MY FATHER LIVED ALL HIS LIFE IN COEDPOETH THE BLUNT NAME OCCURS IN OUR FAMILY TREE. DAD TOLD ME THE BLUNTS CAME FROM IRELAND. I KNOW WHERE MY GREAT X 5 GRANDFATHER'S GRAVE IS IN MINERA CHURCHYARD. HIS NAME WAS FRANCIS BLUNT?!!!!!
E MAIL ME AT kellysminera@talktalk.net
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Post by annedw on Aug 23, 2007 11:33:30 GMT
Have you seen Traceys site. Red zone, check the Wern Records, there are quite a few Kellys and Blunts in there. It`s best to use the search box, then it`ll pick them all up incuding the previous names of the Mothers. www.the-red-zone.co.uk/William Kelly was born 14 Feb 1831, son of James and Fanny. There`s also children of Robert Lewis and Hannah ( prev Kelly )
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Post by margaret on Aug 23, 2007 19:26:43 GMT
James Kelly and Frances (Fanny) Blunt were my gt gt gt grandparents. Both were born about 1800 - but I have not been able to find their births in either the Bishop's Transcipts or in the Minera Parish Registers of that time. I believe that they married at Brymbo in 1823. I have not been able to trace them any further back. What dates/info do you have for your Francis Blunt ? It is just possible that he could be the father of my Frances Blunt. I shall also e mail you direct.
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Post by kelly on Aug 25, 2007 20:08:23 GMT
I HAVE SOURCED THE FOLLOWING FROM MY LATE FATHERS RESEARCH ON OUR FAMILY TREE. FRANCIS BLUNT BORN 1820 DIED 1874 MARRIED TO (BURIED IN SAME GRAVE MINERA) MARY BLUNT BORN 1822 DIED 1901 KNOWN AS NAIN BLUNT IN OUR FAMILY
LIVED AT WESLEY PLACE COEDPOETH FOR MANY YEARS BUT AT TIME OF FRANCIS DEATH ADDRESS SHOWN AS ROGERS ROW COEDPOETH. DAUGHTER AMELIA REPUTEDLY HAD A COUSIN WHO WAS CHRISTENED--!!!!!!!! EDITH EMILY MAUD MATILDA ! FRANCES ! RHEAS MORGAN BLUNT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THEIR DAUGHTER AMELIA B 1847 DIED 1921 MARRIED MORGAN KELLY (MY GT. GRANDFATHER) BORN 1851 DIED 1903 (WORKED ALL HIS LIFE AT PLAS POWER COLLIERY) BOTH BURIED AT COEDPOETH CEMETARY MORGAN AND AMELIA HAD SEVEN CHILDREN BETWEEN 1874 AND 1890
ONE OF WHICH WAS LLEWELYN KELLY MY GRANDFATHER
I HAVE QUITE A BIT OF INFO ON ALL BROTHERS SISTER ETC
SO THEY PERHAPS ARE RELATED TO YUR FRANCES BLUNT AND ANOTHER INSTANCE OF A BLUNT MARRYING A KELLY.
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Post by margaret on Aug 27, 2007 17:18:39 GMT
Thanks for your information. What a shame that we cannot find the direct link between these two Blunt/Kelly marriages. Perhaps, with some more digging, we shall find the relationship. The nearest I can find was that in 1901 John Blunt, possibly the brother of your Amelia, was a boarder with another relative of mine - Noah Edwards at the Royal Oak.
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Post by annedw on Apr 7, 2008 16:12:13 GMT
Som Blunts in St Giles Marriages.
1823 March 22 James Kelly ba otp Fanny Blunt sp otp Witts Joseph Homersley, James Cowper.
1822 Dec 30 James Taylor widower Elisabeth Blunt widow. Witt . Edward Davies. Jane Jones.
1821 Dec 29 John Griffiths ba Miner Charlotte Blunt sp Witt Thomas Edwards, Barbara Hughes.
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Post by margaret on Apr 7, 2008 17:46:14 GMT
Many thanks for this info. The first one is definitely mine.
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Post by sceptrelady on Apr 7, 2008 21:01:44 GMT
Hi Kelly and Margaret
I have an Anne Blunt but she is much earlier. She was my 5thGreat GM and married John Carrington in LLanarmon yn Ial 1743. I haven't been able to learn anything about her. But in the course of looking for her baptism I found a family of Blunts in Llanferres who were baptising there in the early 1700s. If and when you get back that far can you keep an eye out and let me know if you find a stray Anne who might be mine & Rhian's??
Thanks Heather
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Post by eluned on Apr 15, 2008 11:20:47 GMT
Hi again Kelly, I think we had decided that we weren't connected but having had a look on various trees on ancesty, it seems that we may have a link further back. This needs more looking at as I would not want to take anyone elses word for it and would therefore want to research this for myself. There seems to be a link between your Edward b.1813 and my John Kelly b.1817, they could be brothers! ;D
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Post by annedw on Apr 15, 2008 16:07:39 GMT
St Giles 1837 March 20. Thomas Blunt married Elizabeth Jones. Wittnesses . Thomas Griffiths , Lydia Williams. All made their mark X. No info on parents or anything else. The micro film only goes back to 1832, and I didn`t have time to look at the other one, but will check it sometime soon.
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Post by tlm400 on Jul 10, 2008 20:49:55 GMT
From looking at my family tree it turns out that the Llewellyn Kelly mentioned above had an older brother called John, who is my maternal great grandfather.
The connection to the Blunt family on my end goes:
Sion Blunt married Mary who had Amelia Blunt who married Morgan Kelly who had Edward, Elizabeth, John (great grandfather from 1877 - 1962), Llewellyn, David, Frank and Albert
I don't know if this helps anyone with their family tree, but I have enjoyed sharing my connection concerning the above title with you all.
Let me know if you would like some more info.
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Post by bracken on Jul 25, 2008 19:09:10 GMT
I am researching the ancestry of Elizabeth Kelly - nee Williams, 1877-1966. Elizabeth was married to John (Jack) Kelly and lived at Wesley Place Coedpoeth. Elizabeth was known within the family as "Liz y golomen" (the dove) as it is believed she was born/lived in a pub/inn called "Y Golomen" in New Brighton/Minera or Pentre Bais/Gwynfryn. Has anyone knowledge of such a pub/inn at the end of 19th century in that area? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by annedw on Jul 26, 2008 12:12:51 GMT
Closest that I know of similer is the Three Pigeons, but that is about 15 miles away in Graigfechan. The word Golomen can also be translated as pigeon.
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Post by bracken on Jul 26, 2008 18:42:14 GMT
Thanks Annedw, I know of Three Pigeons Graigfechan, but Elizabeth Kelly nee Williams b.1877 was definately New Brighton/Minera/Pentre Bais born. The only reference I can find for Elizabeth Williams b.1877 in that area is in 1881 census. as follows = Father = Richard Humphrys b.1844 Co rwen Mother = Elizabeth Humphrys b.1840 Bala Margaret Williams b.1869 Pentre Bais Richard Williams b.1871 Pentre Bais Evan Williams b.1874 Pentre Bais Elizabeth Williams b.1877 Pentre Bais This seems to indicate that Elizabeth's mother, also Elizabeth, remarried a Richard Humphrys. The reference to Y Golomen is confusing me.
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Post by annedw on Jul 26, 2008 19:45:40 GMT
Bracken, I`ve started this thread again , Kelly/Williams Bwlchgwyn. I think you might get more results there.
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Post by ali on Nov 16, 2008 13:47:24 GMT
Hi my name is Alison, my great great grandprents where Morgan and Amelia(Blunt) kelly I would be very interested in any information regarding the family, my great grandfarther was David.
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Post by ali on Nov 16, 2008 14:21:04 GMT
Hi again Kelly, I think we had decided that we weren't conected but having had a look on various trees on ancesty, it seems that we may have a link further back. This needs more looking at as I would not want to take anyone elses word for it and would therfore want to research this for myself. There sems to be a link between your Edward b.1813 and my John Kelly b.1817, they could be brothers! ;D Lynn
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Post by ali on Nov 16, 2008 14:25:59 GMT
Dear Eluned, I have recently joined this site and am reserching Edward Kelly 1813 who was my Great great great great grandad I am trying to find a link between him and John 1817 some of the people i have contacted think they where brothers that came over from Ireland, are you able to help. ALi
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Post by eluned on Nov 16, 2008 14:52:35 GMT
Hi Ali, There are two Edward Kelly's born around the same time so this would depend which one you mean Having just read your other posts, I now realise the line you are researching and as yet no connection has been made to my Kelly line. Your Edward Kelly isn't the brother to my John, he is the other Edward and I beleive he may have been illegitimate! Sorry, eluned PS I have sent you a PM
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Post by eluned on Nov 17, 2008 9:43:42 GMT
Hi again Kelly, I think we had decided that we weren't connected but having had a look on various trees on ancesty, it seems that we may have a link further back. This needs more looking at as I would not want to take anyone elses word for it and would therefore want to research this for myself. There seems to be a link between your Edward b.1813 and my John Kelly b.1817, they could be brothers! ;D Just to confirm for anyone else reading this thread, I have confirmed that my line isn't connected to the Blunt/Kelly one, at least with regard to the generation mentioned above
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Post by jojo on Nov 18, 2008 23:00:34 GMT
Don't know if this is known already by Blunt/Kelly researchers but found this in Ruthin - Mill Wesleyan Chapel baptism registers
Hannah KELLY, born 07.03.1834 baptized 09.05.1834 d/o James KELLY & Fany (md/o Fany BLUNT) under Remarks it says 1) Pen y Bryn Chapel Wrexham Psh
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Post by ali on Nov 22, 2008 13:44:09 GMT
Dear Kelly, I am the great grandaughter of David, Llywellyns brother, maybe we can help each other as i have quite a lot of information, my main problem is Edward 1813 and Elizabeth Kelly the are proving to be elusive especially there where two couples with the same names around the same time. Ali
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Post by eluned on Nov 22, 2008 16:11:07 GMT
Hi Ali, I sent you a message but you haven't opened it. To view your messages go to top of page and click on new message eluned
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Post by eluned on Dec 5, 2008 15:13:38 GMT
Don't know if this will help anyone researching this line or if it will just add to the confusion but have found an Amelia Kelly, bap. 1820, St Giles to Edward and Mary Kelly, Brymbo, Tailor.Amelia strikes me as a more unusual name and I wondered if this could be a clue Others to this couple are: Elleanor 1813 Mary 1814Edward 1816 but if this is the other Edward ie not the one on my tree, why didn't he put his father down on his marriage cert Thomas bap 1822
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Post by eluned on Dec 5, 2008 15:22:17 GMT
There are also another couple again Edward and Mary Kelly, Bersham, miner having children baptised at St Giles at this time. Harriet 1819 Edward 1822 Mary 1824Wasn't sure which pair were the parents of James 1819, listed as Brymbo, lab. so didn't fit with either couple Who said the Beltons were difficult ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jojo on Dec 5, 2008 17:49:06 GMT
Speaking of Beltons...... does anyone have the Edward KELLY who apparently married an Elizabeth BELTON in Jun Q 1839 in their tree? I'm curious to know who was Elizabeth Belton's father ?
modified 7.45pm
I've now discovered a public Tree on ancestry which states Edward Kelly was born about 1815 in Minera, father is listed as John Kelly c1795?
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Post by jojo on Dec 5, 2008 19:31:30 GMT
James Kelly and Frances (Fanny) Blunt were my gt gt gt grandparents. Both were born about 1800 - but I have not been able to find their births in either the Bishop's Transcipts or in the Minera Parish Registers of that time. I believe that they married at Brymbo in 1823. I have not been able to trace them any further back. What dates/info do you have for your Francis Blunt ? It is just possible that he could be the father of my Frances Blunt. I shall also e mail you direct. Hi Margaret I found this baptism today in Wrexham St. Giles August 13, 1801 (born Jul 27) James KELLY, s/o Thomas (Miner) and Mary, abode Brymbo H
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Post by mo11y on Dec 5, 2008 19:50:32 GMT
Hi Jojo I have Edward Kelly and Elizabeth Belton in my tree. Elizabeth Belton's father was John Belton a miner. Hope this helps.
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Post by eluned on Dec 5, 2008 20:19:12 GMT
Hi Jojo, The Edward Kelly and Elizabeth Belton is one of mine! He is on the Kellys Family History thread as John's son but this John was not born 1795
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Post by margaret on Dec 5, 2008 21:20:37 GMT
Hello Jojo - Many thanks for this. Both you and Eluned have been able to confirm James Kelly's parentage. It would appear that both anniebowen and myself are still out on a limb somewhere with our Kelly's ! Hopefully this Thomas will prove to be the link.
Regards - Margaret.
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