Post by annedw on Apr 21, 2008 12:57:00 GMT
I came across a Turner family with the most unusual names, and am trying to track most of them later than 1851.
Where did they get to ?
Edward Oliver Turner b 1864 Minera married Mary Ellis in 1887. Mary`s parents were John Ellis and Jane Broad, possible from this area
They had two children Leonard and Florence May. In 1899 they emigrated to Vancouver.
I`ll put what I have and see what you can come up with.
Found on Family Search
Turnerina de Margaret Turner.
born July 7 1833 bapt May 18 1834 Mold.
Parents John Turner and Lavinia Rebecca.
1851
Living at Pentre. Broughton. Parish of Brymbo.
John Turner 46 keeper ( teacher ? ) of accounts b Mold Flints.
Rebekah 36 b Hope
Alfred 15 messenger b Raton ??
Bernard 13 messenger b Wrexham.
Cornelius 13 scholar these two are down as twins.
Dreasdush 8 son b Hope
Eignhard 7 son b ??
Tionghal 5 son b Wrexham
Turnwels 3 son b Wrexham
Turvietta 1 dau b Wrexham
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TURNER, Turnerina de Margaret bap Dec 22, 1867, d/o Bernard de Belton (painter & glazier) & Fanny, abode AC (Adwy'r Clawdd)
Births registered 1849 Dec qtr Wrexham 27 233
Turnerietta de Johanna Jane de Faith Turner.
Birth registered 1841 June qtr. Wrexham
Turnerica Henrica Ulrica da Gloria de Rebecca Turner
I`m sure that Edward Oliver is the grandson of John and Rebecca,
but can`t find John b 1840 with his parents.
It seems that John also had the the middle name of Hilgrave .
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John de Hillgreave Turner. married Mar qtr 1862 to Sarah Rogers. ( St Giles )
Heather found the following
Edward Oliver TURNER, bap Nov 26, 1864 Minera, s/o John de Hilgrave (engine driver) & Sarah, abode Twenty Houses
Sarah Emily TURNER, bap Apr 12, 1874 Minera, d/o John (engine driver) & Sarah, abode Victoria Terrace
Joseph Rogers TURNER, bap Oct 5, 1879 Minera, s/o John Hilgrave (engine driver) & Sarah, abode Old Smelt, (Coedpoeth)
John Hillgrave Turner born Dec Qtr 1867.
Alfred Albert Turner born 1869 June Qtr
Ambrose Samuel Turner born 1871 Dec qtr Oswestry.
In 1871 living in Gobowen
John H Turner 29 engine driver b Minera
Sarah wife 30 b Minera
George W son 8 b Minera
Edward O son 6
John H son 3
Alfred A son 2 b Ruabon.
1881 Brymbo
John H Turner 40 b Hope .
Sarah 42 b Minera (nee Rogers )
George W aged 19
Edward O 16,
John H 14.
Alfred A 12 Ruabon.
Ambrose S 9 Gobowen.
Frances 5 Ferry Bridge Yorkshire.
Joseph 2 Minera.
On the death registration form for Edward Oliver Turner father's name is John Turner.
Above surname is de Hildgrave
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Marriages June 1863
Cornelius Turner = Jane Price / Ann Davies. Cornelius died Mar qtr 1877. Looks like it was Jane he married.
Free BMD Marriages.
1854 Mar qtr
Turnerina de Margaret Turner .Francis Bierne.
1861 Hale Street. Bachau Merionethshire
Francis Burne 26 housepainter b Chester.
Turnerinada 27 wife b Brymbo
Timothy son 4 b Rochdale
Jane dau 2 b Llangollen.
Free BMD. Marriages
Hope de Hindley Turner St Giles. Sep qtr 1873
names on same page. James Hanmer, Edward Walker. Sarah Ann Evans, Florence Frances Edge.
Free BMD marriages
Turnerina de Margaret Turner. Sep qtr 1892 William Ellis.
In 1901 at The Rectory Rhesycae
I found Margaret de Ellis 32 b Minera.
married to William Armon Ellis 41.b Llanarmon yn Ial.
He is a Church of England clergyman,
I found on all census William Ellis .His parents were John Ellis b Llanarmon c 1809 Mother was Elizabeth b Mold.c 1825
1861
The family are living in Brynhyfryd Eryrys where John 52 is a grocer.
Elizabeth is 36 with six children from 8 to 1 - William.
1871 The Ellis family are still at Brynhyfryd. 7 children
1881 7 children are in Rodney St Liverpool.
William is aged 21 and is a Comm Clerk.
Lodging with them is a Mackay family , cotton brokers born Brazil
1891 56 Kingsley Rd Toxteth Park. Liverpool
Elizabeth is a widow 56 with 4 children still at home.
William is the Clerk / Curate of St Nathanials Church.
I think he added the middle name Armon later as a reference to where he was born. Llanarmon. Bit like Williams O Wern
Where did they get to ?
Edward Oliver Turner b 1864 Minera married Mary Ellis in 1887. Mary`s parents were John Ellis and Jane Broad, possible from this area
They had two children Leonard and Florence May. In 1899 they emigrated to Vancouver.
I`ll put what I have and see what you can come up with.
Found on Family Search
Turnerina de Margaret Turner.
born July 7 1833 bapt May 18 1834 Mold.
Parents John Turner and Lavinia Rebecca.
1851
Living at Pentre. Broughton. Parish of Brymbo.
John Turner 46 keeper ( teacher ? ) of accounts b Mold Flints.
Rebekah 36 b Hope
Alfred 15 messenger b Raton ??
Bernard 13 messenger b Wrexham.
Cornelius 13 scholar these two are down as twins.
Dreasdush 8 son b Hope
Eignhard 7 son b ??
Tionghal 5 son b Wrexham
Turnwels 3 son b Wrexham
Turvietta 1 dau b Wrexham
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TURNER, Turnerina de Margaret bap Dec 22, 1867, d/o Bernard de Belton (painter & glazier) & Fanny, abode AC (Adwy'r Clawdd)
Births registered 1849 Dec qtr Wrexham 27 233
Turnerietta de Johanna Jane de Faith Turner.
Birth registered 1841 June qtr. Wrexham
Turnerica Henrica Ulrica da Gloria de Rebecca Turner
I`m sure that Edward Oliver is the grandson of John and Rebecca,
but can`t find John b 1840 with his parents.
It seems that John also had the the middle name of Hilgrave .
=======
John de Hillgreave Turner. married Mar qtr 1862 to Sarah Rogers. ( St Giles )
Heather found the following
Edward Oliver TURNER, bap Nov 26, 1864 Minera, s/o John de Hilgrave (engine driver) & Sarah, abode Twenty Houses
Sarah Emily TURNER, bap Apr 12, 1874 Minera, d/o John (engine driver) & Sarah, abode Victoria Terrace
Joseph Rogers TURNER, bap Oct 5, 1879 Minera, s/o John Hilgrave (engine driver) & Sarah, abode Old Smelt, (Coedpoeth)
John Hillgrave Turner born Dec Qtr 1867.
Alfred Albert Turner born 1869 June Qtr
Ambrose Samuel Turner born 1871 Dec qtr Oswestry.
In 1871 living in Gobowen
John H Turner 29 engine driver b Minera
Sarah wife 30 b Minera
George W son 8 b Minera
Edward O son 6
John H son 3
Alfred A son 2 b Ruabon.
1881 Brymbo
John H Turner 40 b Hope .
Sarah 42 b Minera (nee Rogers )
George W aged 19
Edward O 16,
John H 14.
Alfred A 12 Ruabon.
Ambrose S 9 Gobowen.
Frances 5 Ferry Bridge Yorkshire.
Joseph 2 Minera.
On the death registration form for Edward Oliver Turner father's name is John Turner.
Above surname is de Hildgrave
=====
Marriages June 1863
Cornelius Turner = Jane Price / Ann Davies. Cornelius died Mar qtr 1877. Looks like it was Jane he married.
Free BMD Marriages.
1854 Mar qtr
Turnerina de Margaret Turner .Francis Bierne.
1861 Hale Street. Bachau Merionethshire
Francis Burne 26 housepainter b Chester.
Turnerinada 27 wife b Brymbo
Timothy son 4 b Rochdale
Jane dau 2 b Llangollen.
Free BMD. Marriages
Hope de Hindley Turner St Giles. Sep qtr 1873
names on same page. James Hanmer, Edward Walker. Sarah Ann Evans, Florence Frances Edge.
Free BMD marriages
Turnerina de Margaret Turner. Sep qtr 1892 William Ellis.
In 1901 at The Rectory Rhesycae
I found Margaret de Ellis 32 b Minera.
married to William Armon Ellis 41.b Llanarmon yn Ial.
He is a Church of England clergyman,
I found on all census William Ellis .His parents were John Ellis b Llanarmon c 1809 Mother was Elizabeth b Mold.c 1825
1861
The family are living in Brynhyfryd Eryrys where John 52 is a grocer.
Elizabeth is 36 with six children from 8 to 1 - William.
1871 The Ellis family are still at Brynhyfryd. 7 children
1881 7 children are in Rodney St Liverpool.
William is aged 21 and is a Comm Clerk.
Lodging with them is a Mackay family , cotton brokers born Brazil
1891 56 Kingsley Rd Toxteth Park. Liverpool
Elizabeth is a widow 56 with 4 children still at home.
William is the Clerk / Curate of St Nathanials Church.
I think he added the middle name Armon later as a reference to where he was born. Llanarmon. Bit like Williams O Wern