hello,this is the crash site of flight sergent john shepherd flying a BRISTOL BEAUFIGHTER NE203,he was lost over ruabon mountain he was off course aircraft stalled and crashed above world's end llangollen.R.I.P.
It was Bristol Beaufighter TF. Mk10 being ferried from the Bristol factory at Weston-Super-Mare to R.A.F., Kirkbride in Cumbria, when it dived into the ground. Cause was recorded as pilot having lost control in low cloud whilst flying on instruments. Flight Sergeant Sheperd was assigned to Number 2 Ferry Pilot School. On the same day a Miles Master HP227 from 41 OTU., crashed on the other side of the mountain whilst flying from R.A.F., Radnel to R.A.F., Hawarden killing Flight Sergeant Jarosz
hello pierce, thank's for that,when i herd about 2 on same day thought,now there's a collision but no,info i have,miles martinet crashed 4/11/1943.unit z.flight 41 otu hawarden.5 miles w.s.w. of wrexham police station.780867.sgt w.a.w.jarosz(polish)killed age 28,flight from rednal to hawarden.pilot interred at hawarden.(z flight was a target towing flight) have been to crash site a friend is writing a book on all crashes on ruabon mountain 16 in all.
Hi Ago, Yes some reports state that it was a Miles Master and others a Mikes Martinet which was also used for training and for towing operations. Both types were on the strength 41OTU, though I believe the Martinet only entered service late 1942.
hello taff, i wish it was this easy when i started looking,here is coordinate for bristol/beaufighter, long 53.026211-3.135613.above world's end.also minera mountain ww2 plane crash long 53.051737-3.099144,both on google earth,
Ago Have been looking at a map of the local area and cannot find reference too Garth Rocks, However, have found an area named Trevor Rocks which is west of the Garth could this be the area as a report stated that the aircraft crashed 1 mile west of the Garth.
hello pierce, have been there nearly broke my neck,it's very rocky there and a large area to cover, it also say's crashed at 1200 feet look at old maps,also had a look in blackwoods garth also a rough area,well keep looking hope the snow's gone.asked locals nothing.
Hello Ago, Try this web site : www.peakwreckhynters.blogspot.com May be able to help. They have visited Worlds End area but last year in the snow. Found nothing of the four crash sites they were seeking
have been to this site very good,the aircraft they are looking for have been found by me and a friend,in a book FALLEN EAGLES by edward doylerush relating to ruabon mountain,the one's that we have not found, hawker hurricane 29/1/42. v7001 spitfire 3/7/41. x4167 (belgium pilot)avro anson 21/8/42,n4966. miles master 28/7/43 w9093.some of our find's are an airspeed oxford 30/1/44, p6800,pilot a willson (australian)crashed worlds end,during the late 70's or early 80's the forestry commission clearing dead wood found his wrist watch in a pine tree.above world's end another australian mc carthy or macarthy flying an american p-51 mustang fx898 crashed on 5/5/45, and pilot fendley f.r.crashed 31/8/45,u.k.spitfire.
ago Have found further information on the following crashes MUstang FX898 61 OTU Rednal and Airspeed Oxford P6800 30.1.1944 This includes map references which are in the Cassisni formate and I cannot find a way into transferring them into OS Map references. If you do not have this information I will let you have it on this site or if it is possible e mail me. The Oxford crashed in a valley flying towards Worlds End about 500 feet below the hills on either side in a easterly direction
hello pierce, yes had this proplem,what you do is first click on GDIDS then british cassini grid,from mid wales to north wales comes under VJ the O/S MAPS have us under SJ (as you know)then you put your refrence number in starting with VJ,(you must have old army M/R numbers) for bristol beaufighter i have m/r 700700 put in VJ for sj so it's VJ 700 700, to see if you have the right m/r numbers let me know where this takes you VJ 820717, it's a well documented crash(r.i.p.)then go to satalite map(scroll down)have found MUSTANG andOXFORD,good luck.
Ago Put in Grid Ref VJ820717 Puts me at Llwyn Knottia Farm off the Cefn Road Wrexham. Crash site of German Heinkel bomber from the 6th Staffel KG55 (greif) shot down by a Defiant night fighter from 96 Squadron RAF Wrexham night 7/8/51941 whilst raiding Liverpool
correct,do you have old m/r,you have to go to ruthin records office,become a member and ask for CORONER'S RECORDS WW1 AND WW2,THEY ARE ALL THERE,did you think i was just going to give them to you.ha ha good hunting pierce,(it took me age's)and a lot of research,good luck,
ago Many thanks , no the fun is the research, occasionally one needs pointing in the right direction as per the Grids conversion site. That was great, saved me many hours of maths work which even then I would not have been sure whether the location was correct. Good luck on research and I hope you locate those missing aircraft.
ago. Have have been looking at your missing Spitfire X4167, 57 OTU, I have found a reference on the following web site www.spitfires.ukf.net/p001.htm that it descend through cloud and hit Ruabon Moutain. At the time it was flying in formation with Spitfire K9892 from 57 OTU. K9892 also crashed killing the pilot. Just thinking flying together both crash sites may not be that much apart. One may lead to the other.
ago. Had any luck in your search for Spitfire X4167. The weather has not been the best for searching in that particular area. I have some information with regards to RAF Recovery Teams but the records kept mainly did not give map references only the general area. Also some recovery work was contracted out to local civilian firms and they did not keep records as far as I can find. There was also the practice of burying wreckage that could not be recovered or was not worth the effort.
Good to hear from you. Well having found one the other should be not far away. However, both you and I know that if they were say 30 feet from each other then the crash site could been a long way away. Unfortuneately cannot find any reference to the formation they were flying when they crashed. Though since my last post I have visited the Shgropshire Air Recovery Unit based at Sleap Airfield.. Well worth a vist but unfortunately although a number of crashes involve aircraft from the same units/Sqds as those in the Wrexham area they have only recovered those from the Shropshire area.
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