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Post by lemondog on Apr 11, 2013 7:22:45 GMT
hi ,looking for info on my husbands BELLIS family , issac ( blacksmith ) came to liverpool and area with some brothers approx 1841.father Edward mold area1796-mary edwards, 2 more edwards in northop 1766 + 1745 , thomas 1716 , joannes 1695. looking for any info on the older family and those who stayed in wales , are any buried in northop ,any pics and were they mining or farming ? all help appreciated
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Post by eluned on Apr 12, 2013 20:35:18 GMT
Lots of look up requests here lol!!! Can you post some more info please to help with the search ie info from census includes dates/places of birth and referecnce details for Isaac and others please.
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Post by lemondog on Apr 13, 2013 6:12:36 GMT
hi issac is on the 1851 census age 14 , father edward mother mary , brthers edward ,jessie abner and sister agnes . brother john already gone to Hulme married to bridget on 1861 with 4 children . issac and brothers have joined him by 1861 , they were blacksmiths . one census says flint the other mold . I think father edward s wife was mary edwards , but again it`s that 1841 ellusive census . thanks for yor interest . I know there are other bellis`s in mold ,I THink zachariah may be a brother of edward.
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Post by eluned on Apr 14, 2013 8:41:20 GMT
1901 Liverpool Isaac Bellis 61 blacksmith's striker b.Flint, FLN Margaret Bellis 58 John Bellis 30 Joseph Bellis 26 1891 Liverpool Isaac 50 gen lab b.FLN Margaret Bellis John Bellis Joseph Bellis 1881 Liverpool Isaac Bellis 43 forgeman b.Flint Margt. Bellis Mary Elizth. Bellis 10 John Bellis 10 Joseph Bellis 6 Alice Florence Bellis 11mths 1871 Eccleston, St Helens Isaac Bellis 34 forgeman b.Flint Margaret Bellis Mary Bellis 6 John Bellis 8mths Marriage: 25 Sep 1865 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Isaac Bellis - (X), 25, Forge-man, Bachelor, Eccleston Margaret Webster - 22, Spinster, Eccleston Groom's Father: Edward Bellis, Farmer Bride's Father: Joseph Webster, Farmer Witness: Joseph Webster; Ann Lyon 1861 Hulme, Manchester John Bellis (and family) 33 Jesse Bellis 29 brother Isaac Bellis brother 24 Ezra Bellis brother 19 All forgeman b.FLN 1851 Chester Road, Flint Edward Bellis 56 lab b.Northop Mary Bellis 51 b.Flint Parish Edward Bellis son 22 b.Flint Parish Jesse Bellis son 19 b.Flint Parish A(b)ner Bellis son 16 b.Flint Parish Isaac Bellis son 14 b.Flint Parish Ag(nes) Bellis son 9 b.Flint Parish 1841 Evans Place, Flint HO107/1407, Bk.8, ED.15 F.14, Pg.20 Edward Bellis 47 collier Mary Bellis 42 John Bellis 15 Edward Bellis 12 Jesse Bellis 10 Ebenezer Bellis 6 Isaac Bellis 4 Esra Bellis 1mth (transcribed as Belles) All born in county eluned
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Post by eluned on Apr 14, 2013 8:50:07 GMT
Good morning lemondog I don't think there's a sister Agnes as the census says 'son' I think it is poor spelling/transcription of Ezra. Abner is another poor spelling/transcription of Ebenezer. Very clearly stating Flint Parish as pob too! Are you now looking for Isaac's birth/baptism and the further info in regard to Edward (Isaac's father) ? HTH Eluned
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Post by lemondog on Apr 14, 2013 9:45:51 GMT
hi thanks for your help and interest, looking for more info on fether edward and those bellis `s that stayed in wales ?
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Post by eluned on Apr 14, 2013 19:13:27 GMT
This is more than likely the registration of the birth of Isaac's brother Ezra. Ezra Bellis Apr-May-Jun 1841 Holywell, Flintshire The birth cert would give Mary's maiden name Have you tried searching for baptisms in the Flint PRs which appear to be available on FMP? www.findmypast.co.uk/cms/fmp/pdf/wales-baptisms-coverage.pdfFamilysearch Name: Isaac Bellis Event Type: Baptism Christening Date: 07 May 1837 Christening Place: Holywell, Flintshire This would need confirming. I also found the marriage given below on familysearch but you need to confirm a mothers maiden name before going with this one. I note you think she is 'Edwards', may I ask your source please?
Edward Bellis Marriage 08 May 1825 Flint, Flintshire spouse:Mary Hollin eluned
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Post by eluned on Apr 20, 2013 17:02:31 GMT
Hi Lemondog I see you have visited the forum but not responded to my post. You posted 'I think father edwards wife was mary edwards' Can you confirm where or how you came to that conclusion and what was your source for this information please? eluned
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Post by eluned on Apr 21, 2013 12:30:33 GMT
Thank you for the PM Lemondog, much appreciated eluned
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Post by lemondog on Apr 22, 2013 8:58:31 GMT
hi. found one document for wedding of edward bellis and mary edwards 22 sept 1816 ,mold . welsh archive services. could e,mail it from ancestry but don`t know e,mail for this site .
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Post by eluned on Apr 22, 2013 10:01:43 GMT
This is more than likely the registration of the birth of Isaac's brother Ezra. Ezra Bellis Apr-May-Jun 1841 Holywell, Flintshire The birth cert would give Mary's maiden name Have you tried searching for baptisms in the Flint PRs which appear to be available on FMP? www.findmypast.co.uk/cms/fmp/pdf/wales-baptisms-coverage.pdfFamilysearch Name: Isaac Bellis Event Type: Baptism Christening Date: 07 May 1837 Christening Place: Holywell, Flintshire This would need confirming. I also found the marriage given below on familysearch but you need to confirm a mothers maiden name before going with this one. Edward Bellis Marriage 08 May 1825 Flint, Flintshire spouse:Mary Hollin eluned Hi lemondog You could well have found the correct one but you need to go back a step and check as above to confirm Mary's maiden name before progressing backwards. Without any confirmation of her maiden name, you could possibly be climbing the wrong tree especially as they were living Flint and not Mold. Let us know when you have this info and we can then assisit you further Photos can be attached to posts using the browse function button and choosing the file to attach. HTH eluned
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