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Post by ago on Jan 9, 2013 17:07:28 GMT
hello all,going through some old photos i bought recently,and came across a faded photo that had been cut from an album probably, steamed it off to see this message any one know where they are, Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 9, 2013 17:10:10 GMT
this is it can make out a large tree and two figures,? Attachments:
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Post by pierce on Jan 9, 2013 22:48:48 GMT
Ago, The 155 Brigade was the 155th (South Scottish) Brigade in WW1. The 261st Brigade Royal Field Artillery ( Territorial Army) The term "Brigade" for a artillery unit of that time is confusing because in fact it was in a Regimental size unit commanded by a Lieutenant Colonel
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Post by pierce on Jan 9, 2013 22:56:59 GMT
Go Sorry Posted that by accident before I had finished. To continue. The 261st Brigade was formed in 1908 from the 1st Ayr and Galloway Royal Garrison Artillery. In August 1914 the unit was splint into two 1/2 and the 2/2. The 1/2 was renamed 260th Brigade and then renumbered 261st Brigade Royal Field Artillery. The Brigade served in Egypt 1915 /1916 and then in Palastine and Mesopotania 1916/1918 being disbanded in 1919 but reformed in 1920. Now seeing that the word "Johnnie", was mentioned in the letter I would suggest that this letter referred to the time the Brigade was in Mesopotania and fighting "Johnnie Turk"
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Post by ago on Jan 10, 2013 9:33:38 GMT
thanks for all of the info pierce,there is some writing on the back of other photos to suggest a Scottish connection,cant make out name ? river there is a picture of a bridge,girder bridge MEX.
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Post by pierce on Jan 10, 2013 22:05:17 GMT
Ago. The river crossing referred to may have been the River Jordon during the Battle(s) of Megiddo September 1918
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Post by gwil on Jan 12, 2013 10:22:20 GMT
These Bdes went to France in April 1918 with their Division www.1914-1918.net/52div.htmThe below thread regarding the Battle of Jaffa in Dec 1917 has all the right ingredients (the brigades, river crossing, marble column etc) but needs to tie in the river name somehow.(I haven't read the whole thread) I can't make anything out on the drawing you attach but have a look at the photos in post 2. 1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=157418&hl=Gwil
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Post by ago on Jan 15, 2013 19:40:49 GMT
hello all, that is some find gwil, just got round to reading this, it certainly is the photo I have but taken from other side of the tree, i will dig out the photo of the bridge post it soon, anyone having trouble with windows 8, aaaggggg.
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Post by ago on Jan 15, 2013 20:17:24 GMT
here is a bridge and back. Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 15, 2013 20:18:41 GMT
is this jarva ?. Attachments:
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Post by gwil on Jan 16, 2013 6:51:04 GMT
It's tempting to make it fit the scenario isn't it. And Java may very well be his understanding of Jaffa. All said and done the British Tommy did seem have a liking for mangling the 'foreign' placenames he came across (Wipers etc). A tradition hopefully they carry on to this day!!
He refers to a cross. I can't quite make one out on the photo. Maybe he is refering to one on another photo or map/sketch?
The endorsement he writes on the photo of the bridge commences with a number 15. I have half convinced myself that I can make out a number (11 or 21?) at top left of the rear of the column/tree one. If they are all by the same man and he has numbered them then possibly he has done so in a rough chronological manner and identifying some of the other events may date this one?
Do you think it's the same author? The handwriting does bear some similarities (e g the d) You refer to a possible Scottish connection on one of the other photos. Is there any idea of a name for him? Guarding the bridge tends to suggest an infantryman (from a component battalion of the 155th Bde)
Gwil
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Post by ago on Jan 16, 2013 9:57:55 GMT
this is the back of another photo of the bridge and says GIRDER BRIDGE MEX, might post all photos, although last time I did that they were taken off, Attachments:
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Post by nellie on Jan 16, 2013 19:14:06 GMT
post #9 I think it simply says "I am indicated by a cross" It looks like he made a mistake and over-wrote it. Similarly #11 is not MEX but ME X I can't make out any crosses on the photos but maybe they can be detected on the originals. Nellie
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Post by ago on Jan 16, 2013 21:17:16 GMT
front, still cant see an X it may have rubbed off as it's written in crayon, the note is in pencil but shows up blue. Attachments:
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Post by Hen Locsin on Jan 18, 2013 14:58:11 GMT
Hi Ago, I've been following this thread with interest, and its fascinating as each contributor adds or clarifies a little more detail. A suggestion, I might make, as you have the original is to tilt the picture against the light. Even if the crayon or pencil has been erased, sometimes due to the thickness of photographic paper, and its softness often the original mark left an indentation on the photograph. You may have already tried this and I " may be teaching my Granny to suck eggs." keep up the good work! Hen Locsin
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Post by annedw on Jan 18, 2013 16:30:46 GMT
I have a stiff neck This is a really interesting thread. I`ve tried to improve the photo , but there`s not much to be done Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 18, 2013 22:08:10 GMT
hello annedw, what can you do with the photo, i know you have darkened and lightened photos before have go although it looks like it passed it date.the other photos are just groups.
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Post by ago on Jan 18, 2013 22:42:19 GMT
sorry annedw thought you ment the photo of inscription, this photo has some writing in both corners but sadly it has faded all I can make out is camp something. Attachments:
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Post by gwil on Jan 19, 2013 7:53:30 GMT
What's the potential name for him ago? You said there was a Scottish connection.
We may be able to narrow down some likely contenders.
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Post by ago on Jan 19, 2013 9:02:30 GMT
when I say scottish the name bhoys is a Scottish saying and found in photo wallets from Edinburgh and a name COLLY and COLLEY are on a few wallets. Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 19, 2013 9:11:16 GMT
one photo wallet of many, Attachments:
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Post by nellie on Jan 19, 2013 15:59:28 GMT
I note that F C Inglis are photographers to the late King George VI which means the photos in this particular wallet were processed from 1952 onwards. If the photos were from WWI Colley may not necessarily be the person in the photos marked X. Is it possible that the photos are later than 1918? The photos remind me of the photos my father in law brought back from WWII (he was in the navy) and my great uncles' photos from Sicily, North Africa and Burma with the army.Nellie
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Post by ago on Jan 19, 2013 17:10:09 GMT
hello Nellie, yes you are right, the photos were all in a cardboard box all scattered hardly any in their wallets, they may have been developed later, people have not put them back in the folders when browsing here is another name that's cropped up, also a name KIRKCALDY, I'm in the proses of looking at war memorials in that area, Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 19, 2013 17:12:22 GMT
looks like duf? Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 19, 2013 17:13:52 GMT
and colly spelt many ways, Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 19, 2013 17:34:44 GMT
this is better, Attachments:
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Post by ago on Jan 25, 2013 18:31:50 GMT
just found another photo relating to these, the wee billy, Attachments:
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Post by annedw on Jan 30, 2013 8:59:01 GMT
Reply #25 on Jan 19, 2013, 6:34pm » Sign post reads A604. This doesn`t exist now, www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=A604The A604 was an important major cross country route across East Anglia from the 1930s to the 1990s. Route and upgrades The original route of the A604 started on the A6 at Barton Seagrave, just outside Kettering, and ran east through Thrapston, crossing the A1 at Brampton Hut and ending on the original A14 at Huntingdon.
On 1st April, 1936 it was then extended over the entirety of the A132, Despite the renumbering to form a continuous route from Kettering to Harwich, the road does not appear to have become a trunk road, and remained the responsibility of the respective county or city councils. In the later part of the 20th century, the A604 gradually started to disappear, and by 1998 it had completely disappeared.
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