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Post by peterwilliams on Oct 5, 2008 19:48:53 GMT
I am interested in the ancestors of a Daniel Williams born 1823 Hope, coalminer, who lived in Cymau. He had three children Robert b 1861; Lewis born 1863 (my taid); and Hannah born 1866.
Daniel I think married a Mary (possibly nee Williams) b Llandegla in 1830 and living at Fair View Cymau in 1901 Census with my taid.
I am also interested in the descendants of Hannah and Robert.
The story goes that my father and mother were related but I cannot find the connection.
I do know my maternal great grandmother was Mary Williams 1844 - 1907 born Treuddyn and the daughter of Daniel Williams b 1812 in Cilcain (Kilken in 1851 Census, Celeen in 1861!). Hopefully Daniel Williams 1812 is related to Daniel W 1823 but I know not how. Help please?
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Post by annedw on Oct 11, 2008 17:58:29 GMT
Struggled to find these for some reason but got there in the end. 1871 Cottage near Mount Pleasant ( next property Cymmau Hall) Daniel Williams 48 coalminer b Hope Mary Williams 42 b Llandegla Robert Williams 10 b Cymmau Lewis Williams 8 b Cymmau Hannah Williams 5 b Cymmau I can`t pinpoint him in 1861/1851/1841 1901 Fair View Cymmau. Mary Williams widow 71 mother b Llandegla. Lewis Williams son 38 colliery manager (mine Allan) b Cymmau 1891 Alyn Cottage Cymmau Mary Williams widow 60 b Llandegla. Lewis Williams son coalmniner 28 b Hope I really think your`e going to have to look at Hope Prs, they are NOT on the IGI so a visit to a records office looks like the only way. Have I seen this family being researched elswhere, another site maybe It seems familiar.
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Post by peterwilliams on Oct 14, 2008 19:09:49 GMT
Thanks for this which lines up with what I found too. A friend has offered to go to the record office at Hawarden and do some checking for me soon.
If you can recall who else was looking for this family that would be great!
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Post by annedw on Oct 14, 2008 20:23:06 GMT
Yes, it was you, asking about the Min%%llan on the census record way back in March . I`ve got them in 1881. Cymmau Cottage. Must be Daniel. Davies Williams 57 collier b Hope Mary 52 b Hope Roberts son unm 20 bricklayer b Hope Lewis son 18 collier b Hope Hannah dau 14 b Hope. They didn`t move far did they.
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Post by peterwilliams on Oct 18, 2008 15:08:29 GMT
disappointing it was me but thank you all the same - yes I had spotted Davies not Daniel Williams.
The key missing part of the jigsaw is the father of Daniel W born 1823 - hopefully Hawarden will hold the key.
will they also hold information on Alyn Bank Colliery do you think or are there other written sources?
Best wishes
Peter
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Post by eluned on Oct 18, 2008 15:48:41 GMT
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Post by annedw on Oct 18, 2008 16:29:57 GMT
From a site , `List of coal mines UK` Alyn Bank was in Padeswood. A couple of miles from Mold.
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