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Post by tominera on Dec 27, 2008 16:26:12 GMT
I have failed to find the burials of Daniel Hughes b abt 1840 and possibly died abt 1895(June Q) and his wife Hannah(nee Jones) b abt 1840 possible death 1902 (March Q) Last known address is Middle Road Nant Coedpoeth--- Any thoughts or suggestions welcome Thanks Tom
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Post by eluned on Dec 27, 2008 17:55:26 GMT
Hi Tom, Perhaps they are buried at the Wern, unsure if you've ruled these out. The graveyard book part 1 shows: Rhwn No 2 a 3 mae bedd Thomas Highes mab Daniel Hughes, Nant.also Wern 5: ROW 9, no.3. Graves on right hand side Daniel Hughes Wern
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Post by tominera on Dec 27, 2008 20:05:13 GMT
Hi, I have not checked Wern but it is very possible as Daniel was present at the death of both of his parents and at least one of them died in the Wern--hope there is a MI for them but I do now have a location to look at when I can-- Thanks for that Tom
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Post by tominera on Jan 14, 2009 20:01:02 GMT
Went to Wern today and found Daniel Hughes grave and as a bonus also found his brother Edward and unbelievable as it may seem their parents John & Hannah who are my wifes GG Grandparents--also more info on two headstones I was trying to find . Too much info to put on here now but anyone is welcome to it if wanted-Really was my lucky day so took some pics of other graves just in case I can help anyone in the future Thanks Tom
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Post by eluned on Jan 14, 2009 20:59:39 GMT
Hi Tom, I am so pleased you were able to locate them.
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Post by stevieboy on Oct 16, 2011 20:44:23 GMT
Hi Tom, my first post on this site, so please excuse any protocol errors and I realise it is an old post, but from my brief exploration of the boards your name seems to appear frequently! I have a gg grandfather b 1840, father john mother hannah, siblings thomas, michael and john. Do these names match with your records? will leave it there in case this a blind alley, as we so often find, KR Steve
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Post by tominera on Oct 17, 2011 9:49:56 GMT
Hi Steve, and welcome to the site---I will presume your GG grandfathers name was Daniel and if so Yes the brief info you have put in does match the details I have but with more siblings etc which you may not have I would be only too pleased to share info or help you with your search if required--Please feel free to ask anything as there are some really good researchers on this site who would love to help you thats for sure--good luck, Regards Tom
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Post by eluned on Oct 17, 2011 12:28:39 GMT
Welcome to the site stevieboy
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Post by stevieboy on Oct 17, 2011 21:19:44 GMT
Hi Tom,
yes sorry, realised I hadn't put Daniel as my gg grandfather just after I pressed 'post'!
I don't any sibling info, but my tree has the following descendants from Daniel b1883, son of Daniel and Hannah.
He married Eliza Jones, and their children were Emlyn, Earnest (my grandfather) and Ivor. There is also family folklore of a 'myff' probably Myffanwy, and a Maurice and a Maldwyn, unfortunately my father moved from wales as a teenager as so he lost contact with his family to a degree, then moved to america so was even further away!! Hopefully this helps confirm or otherwise.
Thanks for the welcome from yourself and Eluned, tried to get on here before but it seemed the link had been hijacked and sent me to ad site, so glad to be here finally, was exploring last night and seems there are plenty of helpful searchers and threads to follow. So looks like another evening wandering through history!
best regards
steve
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Post by tominera on Oct 19, 2011 13:34:49 GMT
Hi Steve, 1911 Census shows the family living 20 Nant Rd. Coedpoeth HUGHES Daniel aged 28-Coal Miner/Hewer born Coedpoeth HUGHES Eliza aged 27 born Minera HUGHES Emlyn aged 3-born Coedpoeth HUGHES Ernest aged 1-born Coedpoeth---Family married 4 years which tallies with a civil marriage in Wrexham Dec Q 1906--It also states only 2 children born and both alive. I also have a Myfanwy(no dob)Maldwyn(no dob) and Ivor(born 16 3 1918) in my tree-Will gladly supply details of anything you may wish to persue-Regards Tom
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Post by stevieboy on Oct 19, 2011 20:52:45 GMT
Hi Tom,
yes I have the 1911 census entry that matches what you have. I have found ebtries for 1851 and 1861 that between them show siblings of Daniel as micheal, thomas and david with addresses as Wern. Do these match your research? I may have found the wrong family in these years. you mentioned a brother Edward in one of your posts, I have not found any records of him, did he die young?
thanks Steve
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Post by tominera on Oct 21, 2011 13:46:25 GMT
Hi Steve, Just for starters here are the 2 siblings you are missing--- HUGHES Elizabeth born 29 9 1827 & Baptised in Wern 9 10 1827 HUGHES Edward born 12 10 1830 & baptised in Wern 31 10 1830 Edward Married Ann Williams in St Giles Wrexham 1857 and he is on 1851(left home),1861, 1871,1881 & 1891 census and died 17 3 1898 being buried in Wern--I feel sure this will give you plenty to get on with and I did not get around to following up Elizabeth ---would appreciate details if you or anyone else manages to trace her etc.-Regards Tom Attachments:
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Post by stevieboy on Oct 21, 2011 19:12:00 GMT
Hi Tom,
thats great thanks. I wll, of course, let you know if I find anything on elizabeth. I can be quite persistant to hopefully I will find something.
Thanks very much,
Steve
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Post by hughesk on Oct 11, 2012 18:49:05 GMT
HI, as i new to this please bear with me, My family are from the Coedpoeth area and My grandfather was Edward Hughes born 1878, his father was Daniel born 1840 and his father was John Hughes born around 1800 and i believe he was from Esclusham Bersham, he was a farmer in the 1871 census of about 9 acres. I would like to know a bit about John if you have any info please. I also note that others are also interested in the above. I know my grandfather is buried in Coedpoeth Cemetery along with his wife Lydia and daughter Eveline(not sure if the latter spelt right) where would i find the Wern Cemetery? thanks Ken
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Post by tominera on Oct 12, 2012 9:52:04 GMT
Hi, I have quite a lot on this family and will gladly share it all with you. Do you live locally as my version of where the Wern Cemetery is would be an old fashioned style. Here are a couple of pics from the Wern to get you on your way. Good Luck Tom Attachments:
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Post by tominera on Oct 12, 2012 9:52:55 GMT
Second Pic Attachments:
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Post by hughesk on Oct 12, 2012 10:35:26 GMT
Many thanks Tom for your quick response, I live in Bradley and would welcome any info you have on my family, did i note somewhere that your wife is related to the Hughes family. In me Intro, I told you my father was from Coedpoeth his name was Thomas Daniel Hughes born 1903, he had a well known brother in Coedpoeth who was John Richard Hughes, he was on the council for years, anyway there Father was Edward Hughes born 1878 and died in 1949. his father was Daniel who was born in 1840, now i now Daniel died before Edward got married in 1899, I think maybe Daniel died somewhere between 1881- 1899 ? I am really over the moon with this pic of john Hughes, but I cant make out what it says, could you please tell me and if poss any about Daniel and John?
Many Thanks Ken, ps you might know my cousin who was Raymond Brimfield, who his sadly now dead.
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Post by hughesk on Oct 12, 2012 10:43:12 GMT
Ps Tom how would I find this graveyard?
Again Thanks Ken.
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Post by tominera on Oct 12, 2012 14:31:59 GMT
Hi, I will start by trying to explain how I would go to the Wern Cemetery, I would travel through Coedpoeth to Minera and follow the road through to the Wern-I would guess everyone knows where Kingsley Williams's Breakers Yard is. If you carry on down the Wern Rd past Kingsleys and the old City Arms for about a mile there are 4 Council Houses on the right and the Cemetery is immediately before these. Really overgrown and you will need to take care. However should you get any decent photos of any of the graves I would always be grateful to add to my collection as I have never been blessed with a decent day to take pics.
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Post by tominera on Oct 12, 2012 15:10:48 GMT
John Hughes born 17 2 1802 died 14 4 1878 buried in Wern 19 4 1878 also his wife Hannah Challoner born 4 2 1826 died 17 6 1870 buried Wern 20 6 1870 they married in St Giles Wrexham 4 2 1826 cert att. I will get around to the headstone later Regards Tom- I do remember Ray Brimfield and have a feeling he was married to a Megan Brooks who was in school with me or maybe I am having another senior moment. Regards Tom Attachments:
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Post by tominera on Oct 12, 2012 15:22:01 GMT
I had this pic of the entrance from somewhere so apologies to whoever took it Hope it helps Tom Attachments:
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Post by annedw on Oct 12, 2012 17:37:25 GMT
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Post by hughesk on Oct 12, 2012 18:32:45 GMT
TOM, you are a Genius. You have convinced me that i have been looking in the right areas, i was out with the year Hannah was born, but everything else fits and i must thank you for that, did you have anything on Johns Father and Mother? plus I now know Hannah name was Challoner. Tom is the head stone you put on here, the one I am looking for? because i am a bit mystified by where it says Hannah died aged 20 in 1855 or is there something I am missing. Yes it is the right Raymond Brimfield, he did marry Megan Brooks, sadly they divorced later in life and Raymond died suddenly in Pwllheli. I plan to take a ride up to the Wern Cemetery on Sunday if the weather permit's and i will take some pictures and hopefully I can send them to you. Annedw thank you for your info i will take some tools with me.
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Post by tominera on Oct 12, 2012 18:46:30 GMT
Hi, Here is my version of the inscription translated (sort of) In Memory of Thomas son of John & Hannah Hughes who died 11 of January 1855 aged 20 Years also Hannah wife of John Hughes who died 17 of June 1870 aged 68 years also John who died 14 April 1879 aged 79 years. Just for the record Edwards grave in Coedpoeth is next to my wifes Grandmothers grave which we did not know existed until I started doing Family Tree about 7 years ago. Do you have any positive details such as marriage certs deaths baptisms etc of any of the Hughes family as I am always ready to add good facts ? Thanks Tom
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Post by tominera on Oct 12, 2012 19:04:35 GMT
I am sorry about the confusion so maybe this will help-Good hunting on Sunday Attachments:
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Post by hughesk on Oct 12, 2012 19:46:28 GMT
Thanks Tom for clearing the headstone up, i understand it now, being a non welsh speaker i found it hard to understand, yes I do have my Fathers Marriage cert, birth cert and Death cert also i have my grandfather marriage cert. all we have the Hughes family tree with photo's if you can access them on Ancestry it comes under sylviahughes68. Tom do I send copies of cert or photo to you. once again many thanks Ken
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Post by tominera on Oct 13, 2012 9:16:41 GMT
Sadly I do not have access to Ancestry but I will send you my e.mail by PM for you to send any certs etc as I enjoy adding really good bits of info to the tree. especially pics Regards Tom
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Post by tominera on Oct 13, 2012 18:17:27 GMT
Hi Ken, Are you aware sadly Daniel lost his first wife Emma Evans born abt 1842 They were married 9 4 1864 in St Giles Wrexham and her first child Martha born 8 2 1865 sadly died 4 3 1865 Emma died 12 days after the birth on the 20 2 1865 --So all in all a very sad episode in his life but he obviously recovered to remarry and have at least 8 children by his second wife. The headstone is in a very bad state but hope you spot it and take some pics etc Attachments:
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