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Post by annedw on Oct 21, 2006 14:01:15 GMT
www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nwals.htm I found this by chance looking for Plas Mostyn on Google . If you scroll down to Deep Level Mine Halkyn there is Frances Carrington aged 13, as this report is dated 1842 then this Frances must have been born about 1828/29. I wonder ?? Again while searching the 1881 census for something else I found the following entry. Cae Mynydd, Minera. Frances Carrington age ? occ leadwasher b Halkyn Catherine wife age ? " b Whitford Thomas son age 23 leadminer b Halkyn John son 19 b Halkyn William son 8 b Halkyn I wonder if Frances is the same young boy mentioned in the reports on conditions in the mines, from his age and the age of Thomas it could well be. Born 1828/9 ?? As there are so many Carringtons, I`ve put this lot in a list of their own, hope it helps some-one . ;D
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Post by annedw on Nov 8, 2006 18:55:25 GMT
It seem there were quite a few Carringtons in Halkyn area. I found these in the Baptisms in just a few years. The details were very good because it also gives the mothers maiden name, which is a great help to find a marriage. It`d be great if all registers were like that.
1817 Jan 29. Thomas s/o Thomas and Dorothy Carrington. Llygen y Wern. Miner 1818 Jan 17 Thomas S/o John and Dorothy Carrington. Pentre, Lygen. Miner. 1819 Nov 23. Ann d/o Thomas and Dorothy Carrington . Pentre. Miner.
Later records give the mother maiden name.
CHILDREN OF WILLIAM CARRINGTON AND ANN HOLLY ( HAWLEY ) PENTRE. MINER 1820 Nov 19 Robert 1822 July 1 Sarah 1825 Dec 25 William 1827 Oct 28 John
CHILDREN OF JOHN CARRINGTON AND DOROTHY HUMPHREYS. PENTRE. MINER. 1824 Dec 2 Joseph 1824 April 17 Robert - not too sure if this is correct 1826 Oct 27 Richard 1828 Dec 26 Benjamin
CHILDREN OF THOMAS CARRINGTON AND DOROTHY JONES. PENTRE, MINER. 1822 May 5 Thomas 1825 Jan 22 John 1827 Sept 17 Frances 1829 John.
This could be Frances that moved to Minera. The age is about right.
It does seem likely that Thomas, John and William were brothers. I didn`t have time to look at other registers , or even forther back or forwards.
Hope this helps somebody.
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Post by sceptrelady on Nov 16, 2006 5:35:49 GMT
Annette I've come across most of these families from the censuses. In 1841 Dorothy Carrington age 50 had nine sons living at home, ages given from 9 to 30. I checked out most of them in the later censuses and they don't appear to have "crossed over to Coedpoeth. I think these families must be connected further back into the early 1700s. The question is when and where. We know that a John Carrington & Ann Blunt married in Wrexham 1743 and their children seemed to have migrated to Llandegla in the late 1700s. Their descendents basically constitue the Coedpoeth Carringtons as discussed on other threads.
The 1827 Francis (son of Thomas & Dorothy) is not the same Francis of Tyn y Capel fame. That one was born 1828 in Llandegla s/o of John & Barbara Jones, who married in Llandegla 1820, parents also to Thomas Carrington whose inquest was reported in 1875 in Clifford's book Pubs & Inquests.
Many thanks for all your lookups and reports of graveyard visits, etc. You are an invaluable resource for those of us who live so far away.
Heather
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Post by sceptrelady on May 23, 2007 23:58:48 GMT
Further to Annette's post above, I can confirm that John, William and Thomas were brothers, along with oldest brother Francis(1780) all were sons of John CARRINGTON (bap Dec 8, 1750) & Lucy PARRY (Bap.Jun 12, 1743), who were married Oct 11, 1777 In Halkyn. John was the son of Francis CARRINGTON & Elizabeth WILLIAMS, who were married Nov 24, 1743 in Halkyn. Francis Carrington (Sep 17, 1827-1890) married Catherine ROBERTS in 1854. In 1861 Francis was a publican (another one ) at the Hare & Hounds pub in Halkyn. In 1871 he was listed as a miner in Ysceifiog (sp?) and in 1881 he is a Lead Washer in Minera. In 1891 Catherine is still in Minera, widow age 60 with two of her unmarried sons John & William Richard both working as Lead Washers. Catherine died in 1896. In 1901 Bersham William R Carrington has married a Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS and they have a 5 year old daughter Gwladis. One of their daughters Elizabeth (1855) married a George Crossley WOODBURN, a plumber and electrician from Liverpool. They had one daughter Lilly (1879). Another daughter of Francis & Catherine, Margaret (1866) married a policeman from Liverpool, Joseph Wilton LYTHGOE. In 1901 they are living in Toxteth Park with their three children, Francis (1895), Herbert (1899) and Beatrice (1901).
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Post by ryank on Jul 11, 2007 22:02:32 GMT
Hi My name is Keith R . And i am new to this site been advised by a member to come on the boards. I am related to the Carringtons from Halkin . My Greatgrandmother was named Sarah Ann Carrington born 1861 Pentre Halkin . father Francis born 1827 Halkin Wife Catherine Roberts. Father of Francis was Thomas born abbt 1790 Wife Dorothy Jones .His father was John Carrington born abbt 1750 wife Lucy Parry his father was Francis Carrington born abbt 1721 Halkin wife Elizabeth Williams. My Great grandmother married a Robert Jones 26/01/1895 at Hill Street Chapel his fathers name was Joseph Jones and was a Collier witness to the marriage William R Carrington and a Mary Ellen Roberts. Sarah Ann and Robert had a daughter named Sarah but she must have died as my grandfather was born in 1902 i don't know but register in Wrexham his name was Arthur .the family moved to St Helens some years later and Robert worked the coal mines in the area my grandfather and mother also worked the local mines mother working on pit brew sorting through the coal. Regard Keith R
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Post by annedw on Jul 13, 2007 13:39:38 GMT
Hello Keith, well I am pleased someone has claimed `Francis from Halkyn `as his own. There is a suggestion that the Carringtons may have come from Derbyshire coal mines to work in this area, but it must have been quite early on. The bit below is from the BBc Wales web site.
Halkyn Mountain Bryn Ellis, editor of Clwyd Family History's Hel Achau magazine, writes about Halkyn Mountain, and how Derbyshire miners came to settle. Halkyn Mountain is an area of upland forming the backbone of the old Flintshire. The later years of the seventeenth century witnessed the start of an intensive period of lead mining with much outside investment such as by the London Lead Company and Derbyshire mining entrepreneurs. New rich veins of ore were discovered and exploited, bringing into the area a large number of skilled miners, particularly from Derbyshire. Many of these stayed, intermarrying with local Welsh families and becoming Welsh-speaking themselves. Their descendants, bearing non-Welsh surnames such as Bagshaw, Bateman, Carrington, Harrison, Hooson, Ingleby, Martin, Nuttall, Oldfield, Redfern, Spencer, and Stealey, are still to be found in the area.
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Post by shedevil on Jul 13, 2007 22:45:14 GMT
I have found an Arthur Covington (i think it should be Carrington) in the Salem baptism records with a daughter named Louisa Jane and Wife Mary Elizabeth living at 4 Tudor street Coedpoeth in May 1905 Louisa Jane was born on 24/09/1904 and baptised 30/05/1905 Is this your relative ?
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Post by ryank on Jul 17, 2007 21:30:27 GMT
Hi Thank you for the reply to my posting. I have the marirage cert of Sarah Ann Carrington to Robert Jones Son of Joseph Jones . I have received information from Heather re Carrington Family I am also trying to trace the Joneses from the Area. My Grandfather was Arthur Jones Son of Robert and Sarah Ann Jones he was born 1902 and registerd in Wrexham Thank you Keith R
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