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Post by celticar on Sept 3, 2009 21:53:32 GMT
Anyone any ideas where this place may be ?? It's not Cefn-y-Bedd.
Celticar
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Post by annedw on Sept 4, 2009 8:35:41 GMT
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Post by tominera on Sept 4, 2009 14:29:45 GMT
Hi, I live in Cefn Rd Bwlchgwyn Why not enlarge on reason for query and maybe someone will be able to help or clarify exactly where it is you are trying to find. Good Luck Tom
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Post by celticar on Sept 4, 2009 15:08:42 GMT
Thank's Tom.
It appears "Cefn, Brymbo" needs to come under the Minera District Boundaries, in 1845. That way the person I'm looking into, could say they where born in Minera.
Celt
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Post by eluned on Sept 4, 2009 16:40:25 GMT
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Post by annedw on Sept 4, 2009 20:34:41 GMT
In the parish of Brymbo, there was Tanyfron ward, Bwlchgwyn ward, and Brymbo ward. This detail comes from the book Brymbo and it`s neighborhood and refers to a survey taken in 1915 . Even the Four Crosses ( The Moors ) was classed as the Bwlchgwyn ward of the parish of Brymbo. I wonder why they felt the need to change a perfectly good pub name, and call it after a North African tribe. ;D
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Post by celticar on Sept 4, 2009 21:19:22 GMT
will may be have to go to A.N.Palmer Centre, to find out what the boundaries were in 1845. Thanks For the help to date everyone
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Post by eluned on Sept 6, 2009 19:51:53 GMT
Hi I have been given this info by a friend and rellie who lives locally. Hope it helps. "Cefn, Brymbo is on the long lane between Pentre Broughton and Brynteg.You can go up Cefn rd in the Lodge to get there. If you go on google earth to Penre Broughton, down Long lane to Cross lane and the few houses there is Cefn."
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Post by annedw on Sept 7, 2009 8:38:22 GMT
Alan Godreys maps description. This detailed map covers the industrial village of Brymbo, just NW of Wrexham. Brymbo Hall is near the centre of the map and coverage stretches from Smelt Wood eastward to Cefn, and from The Green southward to Ty-cerryg. The Brymbo Steel Works is a major feature surrounded by much of the village of Brymbo, incl St John's church (at top of map), Tai, Brymbo Colliery, The Green, and many railway tracks. The various (and confusing!) railways include GWR Wrexham & Minera line with The Lodge Halt, GCR Brymbo Branch with terminus, GCR Vron Branch and GWR Vron Branch. Other features include Phosphate Works, Black Lane Colliery, Offa's dy-ke, several old mine shafts. Communities or areas include The Lodge, Cefn, Pen-rhos. On the reverse we include a directory of Brymbo with railway timetables for the Wrexham-Berwig Halt line and Brymbo & Coed Talon Branch. And you can try this, www.old-maps.co.uk/indexmappage2.aspx enter these co ordinates 330300 353100
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Post by nainffrith4 on Sept 7, 2009 9:30:45 GMT
Hi. With regards to Cefn Road Lodge, this is only a unadopted road leading to the back of houses on Kent Road, The only access to Long lane is a footpath which goes over the old railway line, which comes out near where the old pub stood.
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Post by celticar on Sept 17, 2009 14:05:43 GMT
Many Thanks for the Help. So either he never was from Minera or he thought he was born there
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Post by celticar on Nov 26, 2012 23:01:01 GMT
Well after much work on this on and off, (other more interesting family tree stuff to do lol) it appears it is the cefn, off cefn road near stream called cefn. Family matching names is at this address in 1851 census. As ancester was aged 6 at time I would have thought he would remember coming from there and not say minera from then on in all other census But like countless others, when asked from were, from they would say where they were living lol :-) His marrage certificate says his father William, and only person matching his year of birth and father and occupation iand general area was born at cefn. Plus family connections to Brymbo of Jones family.
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Post by lb on Dec 4, 2012 9:07:21 GMT
Hi,
The Brymbo Cefn isn't the Cefn near Lodge, but the one near Bwlchgwyn. The Cefn stream runs down from just below Bwlchgwyn, through Glascoed, to join the Cegidog near Ffrith. Cefn and Cefn-bychan are two farms in the vicinity. It's still a very nice area for a walk!
It is only just over the border from the parish of Minera (after the latter's creation in the 1840s). At this time there was very little if anything to Bwlchgwyn at all, while Minera had a long established church, so it seems possible that someone might describe themselves as from Minera under the circumstances....
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