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Post by llosgi calch on Apr 26, 2011 21:58:15 GMT
An email received from Jayne Bodell...
my great grandfather george jackson lived on minera in the 1800s in a place called the frozen clock,he was the father to my grandmother who was my fathers mum,my father robert llywelyn jones would have been 81 on the 16 april.my great grandfather it is said hung himself,his occupation was a bisson maker.my name is jayne bodell. ps.i would be very grateful if you could let me know anything about him.
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Post by eluned on Apr 27, 2011 8:07:29 GMT
Is this the family? 1861 RG9/4285/73/12 Esclusham Above, Pen Y Fron Cottage David Jackson H mar 37 Broom Maker b.Manchester Isabella Jackson wife 37 b.Liverpool George Jackson son 13 Broom Maker b.Liverpool John Jackson son 11 Broom Maker b.Liverpool Thomas Jackson son 9 Broom Maker b.Ruabon William Jackson son 7 b.Wrexham Agnes Jackson daur 5 b.Wrexham David Jackson son 1 b.Wrexham John Jones lodger unm 30 Broom Maker b.Wrexham
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Post by eluned on Apr 27, 2011 8:19:14 GMT
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Post by ago on Apr 27, 2011 19:00:47 GMT
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Post by llosgi calch on Apr 27, 2011 19:20:44 GMT
Thankls for the link 'ago'...
Borrowing the infom penned by Jean Roberts...
High up on the Ruabon Mountain above Penybryn there is a place known as the ‘Frozen Clock’. George Jackson and his two brothers formed a company, this was once used as a base for the broom making industry in Penycae. The material for the brooms or besoms, in this case heather not broom, was collected on the mountain, and grug (heather) dues were paid to Sir Watkin Williams Wynne for this privilege. The brooms manufactured here were dispatched by rail to Liverpool and Glasgow from Ruabon Station. They were then exported to America and Europe. The building’s curious name may have originated when Sir Watkin Williams Wynne, who often called in when grouse shooting, commented that this location was so high up that, “your clock must be frozen”. A local man relating a similar story stated that his grandmother, when asked the time by Sir Watkin, gave the reply "cloc wedi rhewi" (the clocks frozen). Yet another story, is when the building was used by quarry workers, the clock froze and the workers continued until they had completed another shift. When they realised what had happened, they asked for more money, and being refused, went on strike. Take your pick which one is the most likely reason why this place is called the Frozen Clock
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Post by annedw on Apr 27, 2011 19:40:47 GMT
St Paul at Frozen clock Attachments:
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Post by annedw on Apr 27, 2011 19:42:54 GMT
The Wrexham Advertiser, and North Wales News (Wrexham, Wales), Saturday, March 11, 1899
Article above.
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Post by ago on Aug 22, 2013 18:56:11 GMT
HAD A WALK ON RUABON MOUNTAIN RECENTLY AND CAME ACROSS WHAT IS LEFT OF THE BUILDING KNOWN AS THE FROZEN CLOCK, HERE ARE A FEW PIC'S.
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Post by ago on Aug 22, 2013 18:57:24 GMT
AND ANOTHER,
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Post by onlyforfools on Apr 4, 2018 5:56:01 GMT
.Apr 26, 2011 21:58:15 GMT llosgi calch said: An email received from Jayne Bodell...
my great grandfather george jackson lived on minera in the 1800s in a place called the frozen clock,he was the father to my grandmother who was my fathers mum,my father robert llywelyn jones would have been 81 on the 16 april.my great grandfather it is said hung himself,his occupation was a bisson maker.my name is jayne bodell. ps.i would be very grateful if you could let me know anything about him.
George jackson was my GGG Uncle. I do have a reasonable amount of information with regards to the family. I wanted to try and contact 'Jayne Bodell' to further her knowledge.
Any help with contacting Jayne Bodell would be appreciated
Thanks
Anthony Jackson
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Post by hufflepuff on Nov 6, 2018 1:13:30 GMT
Hi, I was also interested in the where the Clock House was as I'm related to this family via George's brother, Thomas Jackson a besom maker. I recently found an article about the death of George Jackson from the Wrexham Advertiser from Saturday 27th April 1893.
THE SUICIDE AT PENYCAE.
At Tyddyn Ucha, a farmhouse near Penycae, on Thursday evening, Mr Wynn Evans, coroner, and a jury, held an inquest concerning the death of George Jackson, besom-maker.
Samuel Morgan, a young lad, said deceased was forty-five years of age, and was his stepfather. Witness had, as usual, been called up by the deceased to his work at six o'clock on Wednesday morning. In about ten minutes after being called, witness got up, dressed himself, and went into a barn used as a workshop. There he saw deceased hanging from a rope, tied to a beam, with his feet at the side of a block of wood. Witness shouted for help, and Mr Andrew Phillips, farmer, came from a field close by, in about a minute, Before Phillips came, the mother of witness had come from the house, and they had cut the rope, but deceased was not alive. The hat of the deceased was on the floor. His scarf was not there. His step-father had tried to commit suicide on the previous Friday in his bedroom, but had been prevented by his wife. Deceased had said then that it was a good job he had been prevented, and promised never to do such a thing again. Some time ago deceased had had a fit upon the mountain, and about three months ago he had had a fall from the mare's back, from the effects of which he had never properly recovered. He was down-hearted lately, and that appeared to affect his head.
Replying to a juryman, witness said his step-father was hurt badly by the fall from the horse's back, and afterwards frequently complained of pain in the head.
Mr Andrew Phillips, farmer, residing at Tyddyn Ucha, said he knew deceased, and had seen him alive on Tuesday evening, when there was nothing unusual about him. On Wednesday morning he (witness) was sowing corn, when he heard Morgan calling out for help. Thinking that Jackson was beating Morgan he went there and saw the deceased in a sitting position on a block of wood, supported by the boy Morgan. The boy told him that he had found deceased hanging, and that he had cut the rope.
Witness felt the pulse of the deceased and found he was dead. The boy's mother then came from the house, and the boy asked her to fetch a drink of water for his father. This was brought, but it was of no use, as the man was dead. Witness knew that deceased had met with an accident at Penycae when returning from Wrexham. There was no one in the barn except the boy when he entered. Witness had sent for P.C. Salisbury, who now produced the rope. Replying to questions by jurymen, witness said he had been called to save the family when deceased was beating them. It was perfectly impossible for the boy to have committed this act as retaliation. He knew deceased was given to drink.
The Coroner having summed up, the jury returned a verdict, "That deceased had committed suicide during a state of temporary insanity." Before leaving, the Foreman, on behalf of the jury, begged to offer their heartfelt condolence with Mrs Jackson and the family in their great distress. The jury also passed a vote of thanks to Samuel Morgan, for the brave manner in which he had acted on the occasion.
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