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Post by eluned on Jan 2, 2012 22:05:57 GMT
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Post by eluned on Jan 3, 2012 9:09:08 GMT
Thank you so much for the information. I do not have a marriage record for Samuel & Ellinor which I would love to track. I do have the Marriage Certificate for Daniel Davies & Hannah Hope. The cert lists Samuel Hope (Miner) as the father. One of the witnesses is Ellinor Hope which I have assumed is the mother, however it could be a sister. Regards John
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Post by eluned on Jan 3, 2012 10:17:54 GMT
I found this one 1851 Cefn Y Maes, Minera HO107/2503/728/18 Samuel Hope H 63 leadminer b.Llanhasa, FLN Jane Hope wife 61 b.Newmarket, FLN Ellenor Hope daug 23 dress maker b.Minera Samuel Hope nephew 13 leadminer b.Minera
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Post by eluned on Jan 3, 2012 10:31:47 GMT
Next door to Ty Hir 1861 Aberterfyn, Minera RG9/4286/77/4 Samuel Hope H Wid 73 formerly lead miner, ill health b.Llanasa, FLN Daniel Roberts son in law mar 28 leadminer b.Llanbedr, DEN Ellen Roberts daur wife 33 b.Minera Jonathan H Jones g.son 5 b.Minera Mary J Jones g.daur 3 b.Minera Deaths reg Wrexham Jane Hope Mar 1/4 1853 Samuel Hope either Jun 1/4 1862 or Sept 1/4 1862 I think Ellenor has remarried. Ellen Hope marr Robert Jones/Richard Morton St Giles, Wrexham Sep 1/4 1854 Ellin Jones marr Daniel Roberts Dec 1/4 1859 Wrexham Civil. This would either be a register office or a nonconformist wedding.
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Post by eluned on Jan 3, 2012 11:42:20 GMT
Baptisms Minera 1786-1820 Jun 6 1813 Richard s/o Samuel Hope (miner) & Jane (Lloyd), Minera Jun 25 1815 David s/o ditto Mar 9 1817 David s/o ditto Jul 25 1819, born Jul 12, Edward s/o Samuel Hope (miner) & Jane, Minera Luckily the later PRs have been transcribed ;D 1821 Sep 22 Llewelyn s/o Samuel HOPE miner & Jane, Esclusham Above 1823 Aug 3 Hannah d/o Samuel HOPE miner & Jane, Esclusham Above 1827 May 27 Ellen d/o Samuel HOPE miner & Jane, Minera minerahistory.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1259Scroll down to reply 4+
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Post by johnn on Jan 3, 2012 16:40:26 GMT
Thank you
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Post by annedw on Jan 8, 2012 13:25:28 GMT
1851 Samuel Hope H 63 leadminer b.Llanhasa, about 1788 I think these may worth looking at closer, some of the names match those in the wills and Jills site gives the burial date for the two wills, and baptism of Samuel 1788 matches your man. hdl.handle.net/10107/593733Edward Hope of Axton Llanasa. will 1796 Brother John Hope. Nephew Samuel Hope son of my brother John. My wife Elizabeth Hope. Children of my brother John Hope hdl.handle.net/10107/526695Sidney Hope widow Llanasa 1787 Son Edward Hope Daughter Ann Hope Daughter Teresa ? Hope And as my son John was my comfort in my old age Found on Jill Rose`s site. freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/H.htmlHOPE contd Llanasa: 21 Jan 1762 bur/o Mary of Axton 26 May 1771 bap/o John HOPE (DAVIES) base s/o John DAVIES & Mary HOPE 30 Mar 1776 bur/o Samuel of Trelogan *** 6 Jun 1787 bur/o Sidney of Trelogan *** 30 Mar 1788 bap/o Samuel s/o John & Elizabeth, Trelogan 24 Oct 1790 bap/o Edward s/o John & Elizabeth, Trelogan 28 Jul 1793 bap/o Teresia d/o John & Elizabeth, Trelogan 16 Apr 1794 bur/o John of Meliden ***May 1796 bur/o Edward HOPE of Axton*
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Post by eluned on Jan 8, 2012 14:13:25 GMT
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Post by eluned on Jan 8, 2012 14:40:29 GMT
28 Jul 1793 bap/o Teresia d/o John & Elizabeth, Trelogan Sister to Samuel.
Could this be her? Teresa is an unusual name. 1841 ? Gwitnant, Whitford HO107/1407/11/15 Teresa Thomas 47 John Thomas 18 Ellinor Thomas 16 Mary Thomas 12 Robert Thomas 10 Henry Thomas 7 All born in county
1851 ? Gwitnant, Isglan, FLN HO107/2500/190/9 Theresa Thomas H wid 58 b.Llanasa Ellin Thomas daur 23 b.Whitford
1861 ? Gwitnant, Whitford RG9/4267/52/5 Teresa Thomas H wid 67 b.Llanasa
Theresa Thomas death reg Whitford Jun 1/4 1862
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Post by johnn on Jan 8, 2012 17:31:36 GMT
Many thanks - will have a good look at the info
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Post by annedw on Jan 8, 2012 17:44:07 GMT
There are at least two other Teretia Hope`s, perhaps Teretia snr is Sidneys daughter.
19 Feb 1786 bap/o Teretia HOPE (MUCTCHELL) (born 18th) base d/o John MUCTCHELL & Teretia HOPE
Sidney Hope widow dies Llanasa 1787 Son Edward Hope Daughter Ann Hope Daughter Teresa ? Hope
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