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Post by richk on Jul 7, 2012 13:23:13 GMT
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries . The Wrexham Advertiser, Denbighshire, Flintshire, Shropshire, Cheshire & North Wales Register (Wrexham, Wales), Friday, March 31, 1866; pg. 4; Issue 678. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
1866
TURNER - HORTON - On the 13th inst, at the Parish Church, Wrexham, by the Rev. T. Jones, Mr. Bernard de Belton Turner, Minera, to Miss Fanny Horton, Wrexham
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Post by richk on Jul 7, 2012 13:29:35 GMT
Wrexham and Denbigh Weekly Advertiser, and Cheshire, Shropshire, Denbighshire, Flintshire, and North Wales Chronicle (Wrexham, Wales), Saturday, July 29, 1854; pg. 4; Issue 21. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
1854
"The Assizes for Denbighshire will be held on the 31st inst. at Ruthin. The following are the names of the prisoners for trial:...Bernard de Belton Turner, charged with breaking into the house of Mr. Samuel Harrop, and stealing one door lock, one purse, bag, and £5, on the 10th inst., out on bail."
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Post by richk on Jul 7, 2012 13:41:50 GMT
SUMMER ASSIZES . North Wales Chronicle (Bangor, Wales), Saturday, August 5, 1854; Issue 1430.
1854
"WEDNESDAY. After the court was opened, his lordship passed sentences upon the following: Bernard de Belton Turner, who had pleaded guilty to burglary. His lordship observed it was a foolish boyish action, and advised him to keep his hands from picking and stealing."
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Post by celticar on Jul 8, 2012 12:56:35 GMT
Well I've had a look at this again out of interest.
Seems the names you have for the children are a bit mixed up. Found Rebecca Lavinia De Gloria Da Ulrica Henrica Turnerica Turner on North Wales BMD. Born 1840 sub district Hope, District Wrexham.
Which would point to family being in Brymbo area by this time. Think that's going to be the best your going to get to pinning them down for 1841 census time frame. So you now have a window time line wise of moving to Brymbo area of between 1836 and 1840.
Also raises the question of how many of the children do you have actual record accounts for births ??
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Post by celticar on Jul 8, 2012 13:38:45 GMT
The reason I raise this is the interesting fact that 3 un-named boys are registered for that area. 1841 (would match John) 1844 (would match Eighnard) 1846 (Would match Tionghal)
But nothing that matches Dreasdush or Faithful thomas.
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Post by celticar on Jul 8, 2012 14:28:12 GMT
Doiasdush could very well be John, as John not on 1851 census anywhere that I can see. No sign of a birth or death or marriage that I can see. (with a bit of luck i'll be proven wrong ) :-)
Turnerica (which ever record you choose lol) Was born and died in 1840
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Post by richk on Jul 8, 2012 21:42:49 GMT
Death record,
Name: Faithfull Thomas Turner Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1854 Registration district: Wrexham Inferred County: Denbighshire Volume: 11b Page: 254
This could be the birth
Name: Faithful Turner Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1845 Registration district: Stockport Inferred County: Cheshire, Lancashire Volume: 19 Page: 285
Found no other "Faithful"'s
Cheers Rich
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Post by richk on Jul 14, 2012 21:15:06 GMT
Death record (from FMP)
Burials in the Parish of Mold in the county of Flint in the year 1854 (page370)
Faithful Thomas Turner Record No: 2954 Abode: Wrexham Parish When buried: November 28th 1854 Age: 2 years By whom the ceremony was performed: Jenkin Davies, Vicar
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Post by richk on Jul 14, 2012 21:24:28 GMT
Marriage record for Fighonghangal o Temardugh Hope de Hindley Turner (from FMP)
Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Wrexham in the County of Denbigh
When Married: 17th July 1873
Hope de Hindley Turner Age - Full Condition: bachelor Profession: Engine Driver Residence at time of marriage: Rhosddu Father: John Turner (book keeper)
Florence Francis Edge Age - Full Condition - spinster Residence at time of marriage: Rhosddu Father: Richard Edge (Writing Clerk)
Witnesses: Turnwell Turner / Jane Turner
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Post by richk on Jul 14, 2012 21:31:28 GMT
Name: Florence Frances Edge Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1852 Registration district: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: Page: 321
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Post by richk on Jul 14, 2012 21:38:35 GMT
1861 England Census
Name Age Richard Edge 36 (School Master, Agent, and Accountant) Marie Edge 34 (School Mistress) Reginald Perry Edge 11 Florence France Edge 9 George Richd Edge 6 Herbert John Edge 4 Edwin Chas B Edge 2
Civil Parish or Township: Bank Cottage, Northop Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales
Piece: 4272 Folio: 28 Page Number: 3
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Post by richk on Jul 14, 2012 21:51:48 GMT
Baptism record for Turneranna de Mary Elizabeth (from FMP)
Baptisms solminized in the Parish of Mold, in the county of Flint, in the year 1835
When Baptized: June 8th Record No: 4763 Child's Christian Name: Turneranna de Mary Elizabeth Parents Christian Name (s): John & Lavinia Rebecca Parents Surname: Turner Abode: Horton above Rhubon Profession of Father: Agent at the iron works
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Post by richk on Jul 14, 2012 22:00:44 GMT
Baptism record for Turnerietta de Johanna Jane de Faith Turner (from FMP)
Baptisms solemnized in the District of Brymbo in the Parish of Wrexham in the County of Denbigh in the year 1850
When Baptized: 31st March 1850 Record No: 643 Child's Christian Name: Turnerietta de Johanna Jane de Faith Parents Christian Names: John & Lavinia Rebekah Parents Surname: Turner Abode: Glascoed Profession of Father: Accountant By whom the ceremony was performed: W. G. Davies
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Post by richk on Jul 14, 2012 22:10:11 GMT
Baptism record for Turnwell de Pringle Turner (from FMP)
Baptism solemnized in the District of Brymbo in the Parish of Wrexham in the county of Denbigh in the year 1848
When Baptized: 1st January 1848 Record No: 485 Child's Christian Name: Turnwell de Pringle Parent's Christian Names: John & Lavinia Rebecca Parent's Surname: Turner Abode: Glascoed Profession of Father: Cashier By whom the ceremony was performed: W. G. Davies
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 10:12:42 GMT
Turnerina de Margaret Turner Baptism Record (from FMP)
This is the first Turnerina de Margaret Turner (the second was born to Bernard de Belton Turner & Fanny Horton).
Baptisms Solemnized in the Parish of Mold, in the County of Flint in the Year 1834
When Baptized: May 18th 1834 When Born: 7th July 1833 Record No: 4507 Child's Christian Name: Turnerina de Margaret Parent's Christian Names: John and Lavinia Rebecca Parent's Surname: Turner Abode: Brymbo (Wrexham) Profession of Father: Agent in the mines By whom the ceremony was performed: G. Williams, Curate
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 10:26:33 GMT
Turnerina de Margaret Turner - Baptism (from FMP)
This is the second Turnerina de Margaret Turner (daughter of Bernard de Belton Turner & Fanny Horton)
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of (blank) in the county of (blank) in the year of (blank)
When baptized: 22nd December 1867 Record No: 430 Child's Christian Name: Turnerina de Margaret Parent's Christian Names: Bernard de Belton and Fanny Parent's Surname: Turner Abode: Adwy Clawdd Profession of Father: Painter & Glazier By whom the ceremony was performed: H S Jeffrey Jones
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 10:39:16 GMT
Marriage Banns record of the 2nd Turnerina de Margaret Turner (daughter of Bernard de Belton Turner & Fanny Horton)
Page 14 1892
Record No: 75
Banns of Marriage between William Armon Ellis, bachelor and Turnerina de Margaret Turner, spinster of the Parish of Rhosddu
were published on the three Sunday's underwritten:
On Sunday, the 31st July, Jethryn Jones, Curate On Sunday, the 7th August, W. H. Fletcher, Vicar On Sunday, the 14th August, Jethryn Jones Curate
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 10:45:18 GMT
1911 Wales Census
William Armon Ellis 51 (Clergyman in Established Church) Tutonetian De Margaret Ellis 44 Gweadoline Ellis 21
Address Civil parish: Whitford County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: Hynnon Groyw Micarage Mostyn N Wales
Registration district: Holywell Registration District Number: 619 Sub-registration district: Whitford ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 138 Piece: 33910
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 10:48:28 GMT
1901 Wales Census
Name Age William Armon Ellis 41 (Clergyman, Church of England) Margaret D Ellis 32 Miriam Jones 21
Address Civil parish: Halkyn Ecclesiastical parish: Rhesycae Christchurch Town: Hendrefigillt County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Holywell Sub-registration district: Flint ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 61, The Rectory Piece: 5211 Folio: 98 Page Number: 11
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 11:05:04 GMT
Marriage record between John Turner & Lavinia Rebecca Caley (from FMP)
Page 290
Marriages formalized in the Parish of Mold in the County of Flint in the year 1833
John Turner (bachelor) of this Parish
and
Lavinia Rebecca Caley (spinster) of this Parish
were married in this Church by Banns
this 13th day of April
in the year one thousand wight hundred and thirty three
This marriage was formalized between us: John Turner Jmr & Lavinia Rebecca Caley's x mark by me John James, Curate
In the prefence of: Edward Thomas Tartt & Ann Langford
Record No: 868
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 11:28:18 GMT
Marriage record of John de Hillgreave Turner (son of John Turner & Lavinia Rebecca Caley)
1862 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Wrexham in the County of Denbigh
Record No: 78
When Married: 30th January 1862
John de Hillgreave Turner Age: Minor Condition: Bachelor Profession: Engineer Residence at time of Marriage: Coedpoeth Father: John Turner (Book Keeper)
Sarah Rogers Age: Full Condition: Spinster Residence at time of Marriage: Spinster Father: Edward Rogers (Collier)
Witnesses: Bernard de Belton Turner & Mary Rogers
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 11:39:23 GMT
1851 Wales Census
Rogers family
Name Age Edward Rogers 60 (Collier) Francis Rogers 46 Sarah Rogers 11 William Rogers 7 Mary Rogers 3
Civil Parish or Township: Minera Ecclesiastical parish: Minera County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Registration district: Wrexham Sub-registration district: Ruabon ED, institution, or vessel: 9b Piece: 2503 Folio: 742 Page Number: 19 Household schedule number: 76 Machine House
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 12:17:46 GMT
parish Marriage record for Ambrose Samuel Turner (son of John de Hillgreave Turner & Sarah Rogers) (from FMP)
Page 164
1896
Marriage solemnized at Holy Trinity Church in the Parish of Birkenhead in the County of Birkenhead
Record No: 326
When Married: 15th June 1896
Ambrose Samuel Turner Age: 24 Condition: Bachelor Profession: Ships Draughtsman Residence at time of Marriage: 10 Knowles Street, Birkenhead Father's Name: John de Hillgreave Turner (Engine Driver)
Ada Lewis Age: 25 Condition: Spinster Residence at time of Marriage: 83 Claughton Row Father: Charles Lewis (Ship Plater)
Witnesses: Alfred A. Turner, Isabella Aspinall
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 12:29:45 GMT
Ambrose Samuel Turner (Head) Age: 39 Condition: Married Profession: Naval Architect Industry: Shipyard Born: Gobowan, Shropshire
Ada Turner, wife Age: 40 Condition: Married Born: Birkenhead, Cheshire
Isabella May Turner, niece Age: 9 Condition: single At school Born: Birkenhead, Cheshire
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 12:55:51 GMT
Parish Marriage Record for Edward Oliver Turner (son of John de Hillgrave Turner) & Mary Ellis
1887
Marriage soleminized at Parish Church in the Parish of Birkenhead in the County of Chester
Record No: 122
When married: 30th May 1887
Edward Oliver Age: 22 Condition: bachelor Profession: Engine Tender Residence at time of Marriage: 1 Grace Terrace, Cleveland Street Father: John Hillgrave Turner (Engine Tender)
Mary Ellis Age: 19 Condition: Spinster Residence at time of Marriage: 1 Grace Terrace, Cleveland Street Father: John Ellis (Lawyer)
Witnesses: Charles Henry Impine, Sarah Jane Ellis, John Ellis
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Post by richk on Jul 15, 2012 16:03:35 GMT
Marriage record of Alfred Albert Turner (son of John de Hillgreave Turner) and Catherine J Crompton
Page 132
1894
Marriage soleminized at Holy Trinity Church in the Parish of Birkenhead in the County of Birkenhead
Record No: 263
When married: 25th December 1894
Alfred Albert Turner Age: 25 Condition: Bachelor Profession: Moulder Residence at time of marriage: 10 Knowles Street Father: John de Hillgreave Turner (Engine Driver)
Catherine Crompton Age: 23 Condition: Spinster Residence at time of marriage: 71 Marion Street Father: James Crompton (Blacksmith)
Witnesses: James Crompton & Frances R. Armstrong
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