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Post by annedw on Oct 16, 2006 17:27:21 GMT
I have just about exhausted my Wilcoxon family, so have turned to the Hughes, which is my Mums line. My cousin has done a lot on this and is now stuck ( not surprising ). So we have decided to have look at my Nana`s family - who were the Foulkes. Her father was Robert Foulkes, a collier. There was a family tale that he was born in the Druids Inn, Pontblyddyn, no surprise there, given the liking for ale in my family !!!. I have found in 1881 , Edward Jones 41 married to Ann Jones 41 b LLandynog. John Foulkes stepson aged 20 b Mold Robert " " 18 " collier. Samuel " " 12 " Thomas O " " 10 " Also there are Elizabeth A Jones aged 7 Edward " 5 William " 3 James " 1 They are living at Pontblyddyn Church Row, and as the Druids is opposite the church this MUST be the right family. ;D If the tale is true then they must have been there for about 20 years. This is too good to not be him, surely, and it seems that Ann`s husband ? Foulkes must have died around 1870 - 1873 if the dates of her childrens births are to be belevied - but of course we all know it`s not that simple !!!. I`m sure this is mine as I remember taking my Mum to visit relations in Llandyrnog , Ok so it was about 100 years later, but the link is there. So to get to the nitty gritty, can anyone find this family in other census records , or anything to help me trace them back or forwards. My Nana -Sarah Ann Foulkes was 21 when she married Price Hughes aged 22 in 1915. She had a sister Rosie. Please can anyone help me .
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Post by shedevil on Oct 16, 2006 18:34:22 GMT
Hi Annette found these: 1901 Census Gwersyllt Robert Foulkes Head Married aged 39 Coal Miner/ Hewer b. Mold Mary Foulkes Wife Married aged 36 b. Mold Mary Eliz. Foulkes Dau 9 b Gwersyllt Sarah A Foulkes Dau 7 b. Gwersyllt Rose Foulkes Dau 4 b Gwersyllt Lilian Foulkes Dau 7 Months b Gwersyllt
1891 Census Gwersyllt Robert Foulkes Head Married aged 28 Collier b. Pontblyddyn Mary Foulkes Wife married aged 25 b. Mold Ellis Edwards Lodger Single aged 37 B.Rhos
Will look for more later
Tracey ;D
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Post by annedw on Oct 16, 2006 19:38:08 GMT
This is it !!!, I can remember Auntie Rosie, she married Tom Taylor who used to have Hardware shops in Wrexham, in Brook Street and Henblas Street. He used to give us fireworks, remember Catherine wheels and Crackers , flippin heck - how old am I. Uncle Tom was a counciller , and I think also his son Harold and his grandson( Haydn ?) still has something to do with Wrexham BC. I can just about recall Aunti Lil, she and Auntie Rosie always wore fur coats, of course my Nana having married a collier was not so well off, no car and lived in a council house, but they were my Nana and Taid and I loved them. Lil lived to a great age some- thing like ninety odd. Thanks for this, and if you have the addresses that they lived at that would be great, I am probably within a mile of them , but doubt if they are still there.
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Post by shedevil on Oct 17, 2006 2:06:20 GMT
Hi Annette Here we go here is a bit more info: 1871 Census Druid Cottage, Pontblyddyn, Leeswood Thomas Foulkes, Head Married 37 Collier b. Mold Ann Foulkes Wife, Married 31 b. Rhos John Foulkes Son 10 b. Mold Robert Foulkes Son 8 b. Mold Samuel Foulkes Son 2 b. Mold Thomas Owen Foulkes Son 1 Month b. Mold Possible marriage of Anne and Thomas is Q4 1860 St Asaph Ann Evans and Thomas Foulkes Vol 11b Page 654 Death of Thomas Foulkes registered Q3 1871 Hollywell aged 38 Vol 11b Page 165 Will find you more tomorrow only got up for a cuppa cos I couldnt sleep hope this info helps a bit Tracey
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Post by annedw on Oct 17, 2006 12:16:10 GMT
Thanks Tracey, what you have found so far confirms the Druids tale. ;D I am confused now as to how I had so many Foulkes relations, if my Nana only had sisters, unless she had a brother born later than 1901, and the link with Llandwrnog area is a mystery. The only other explanation is that some of Robert`s brothers also moved to the Wrexham / Gwersyllt area, and these are the ancestors of the Foulkes I knew. My Mum definately called the one in Llandwrnog Uncle John, perhaps he was Nana`s brother, but why move up there I remembered a grave in Gwersyllt that my mum told me was a relation, and took five minutes to pop down there. John Foulkes died Jan 4 1916 aged 60 Mary his wife of Rhosddu died April 10 1936 aged 80] Selina their daughter died March 24 1963 aged 79. So where do they fit in . Selina should be on a census somewhere if she was born in 1884.
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Post by Hen Locsin on Nov 29, 2006 17:17:48 GMT
Hi Annette, May be of some help, I knew Harold very well, and I'm fairly sure that he lived at Bennions Road Wrexham, during the time that he ran the business. I bumped into Haydn, when I was visiting a museum to Laurel & Hardy in Ulverston, Lancashire some years ago now, and Haydn was lodging at that address, I think that either he may have had a temporary difference of opinion with his parents, and/or he was working in the area as well.
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Post by annedw on Nov 29, 2006 20:04:51 GMT
Thats right, he did live there, but I hardly knew Harold or Haydn, my Mum knew them better than me, you might have known my Aunty Gwen -- Cuthbert, she lived across the road on the corner of Bennions Road. They were always back and to in each others houses. Gwen was my Mums sister. Small world isn`t it.
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Post by Hen Locsin on Dec 4, 2006 21:59:25 GMT
Hello Annette, Yes I do/did know Gwen, over very many years. When she was living in Poyser St.,, and then later in Beechley Rd., and Coedpoeth and your cousins, Karen, Diane and Karl. It is indeed!
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Post by sceptrelady on Jan 1, 2007 21:44:38 GMT
Hi Annette
Have found several possible births for John Foulkes 1st) September 1856 registered Ruthin 2nd) September 1857 registered Wrexham 3rd) June 1854 registered Oswestry (Denb & shropshire)
Marriage Wrexham Oct 1876 John Foulkes & Mary Hughes
1881 Census, Gwersyllt John Foulkes, 26, coal miner, Wrexham Mary Foulkes, 28, Wrexham James Foulkes, 4, Gwersyllt Helena Foulkes, 2, Gwersyllt
1891 Census Jones Terrace Gwersyllt John Foulkes, 36, coal miner, Wrexham Mary Foulkes, 36, Gwersyllt James " ", age 14, Gwersyllt Selina "", age 12, Gwersyllt Sarah "", age 9, Gwersyllt Ada "", age 6, Gwersyllt
1901 Census Twemlow, Cheshire Selina Foulkes, age 22, housemaid, nr Wrexham Wales
Just let me know if you would like me to keep digging! Heather
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Post by annedw on Jan 2, 2007 17:21:01 GMT
Yes, any info on this one is great, but I am still baffled as to where he fits in. I have tracked all the Foulkes boys to Gwersyllt in 1901 and the Jones boys who were their half brothers. I`ve found a couple of people from the same family on Genes Re-U, and they have given me lots of details, but I just cannot place this John, I know it`s not vital but I hate a mystery. The only possibility is that perhaps he was a son of one of Thomas Foulkes snrs brothers, they could have moved to Wrexham area, and the ages would be about right. That would make him a great uncle to my Mum, I don`t know , it`s all giving me a head ache.
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Post by annedw on Jan 2, 2007 17:34:20 GMT
HEN LOCSIN, Shortly before Gwen died we decided to start looking at this Foulkes line, and she had started to try to remember snippets from her childhood , we were going to put it down and then go onto the serious stuff. Sadly within a few weeks of being diagnosed with cancer she died. There is so much she could have told me and now I`ll never know as she was the last of the Hughes and the youngest. You must have known the family for a long time you remember 28 Poyser Street. I still keep in touch with Roy and did a lot of research on his family, which caused a few raised eyebrows, II`m passing what I have found on to Carl, Diane and Karen. Carl is now in the Brighton area, Karen is in Llanbedrog, and Di is in Geneva, I spoke to her yesterday.
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Post by Hen Locsin on Jan 15, 2007 18:30:43 GMT
Annette, I am a personal friend of Roy's and he has outlined some of the facts that you were kind enough to unearth for him! Have known the family since Dianne was in Grove Park, etc., and usually speak with, or meet Roy on a weekly basis. He is full of admiration, as am I for all the work that you put in to this site, keep up the good work!
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Post by annedw on Jan 31, 2007 21:06:14 GMT
Tracey please can you help ;D I have managed to get these details on My Thomas . I am certain that the placename for Anne is Harts Heath and that is VERY interesting, It is a large old estate close to Pontblybbyn, Do you think you can dig out any census records for Anne and her family. I know it`s not really Minera, but hey ho, they are as much a part of my past as the Coedpoeth Wilcoxons were. ;D
Feb 20 1860. Thomas Foulkes(X). 25. Bachelor. Collier. Tai Bowen. Father, Samuel. Labourer. Anne Davies. 21. Spinster. Heails Heath. Father, John. Game keeper. Witnesses. John Davies and Mary Foulkes(X) (X)=Did not sign made mark.
Anne Davies b 1840 at Llandynog , d/o John and Eleanor . John b c 1809 Ruthin, Eleanor b 1804 Ruthin.
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Post by shedevil on Feb 1, 2007 18:43:25 GMT
Annette Leave it with me and i will get you as much info as i can find Sorry havent been around much to help lately been a tad busy with work and exhausted when i get home such is life ha ha ha
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Post by shedevil on Feb 4, 2007 11:51:46 GMT
Hi Annette
Pretty difficult one this seeing as the info is pretty vague but this is what i have come up with, not sure if its correct but I know you will have a gut feeling I have located on the 1851 Census an Anne Davies aged 11 her father is John Davies aged 39 a publican at the Victoria Tavern in Bodafary His place of birth is given as Llandynog.
Let me know if you think they are the correct family and i will look for more
Tracey
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Post by annedw on Feb 4, 2007 12:24:27 GMT
The only extra I have is that on one census, Anne is down as being born Rhos, which is a place near Llandynog, and in 1881 John and Eleanor are at Tai Bowen , Leeswood, with a grandson aged 26 - Thomas D Jones, so it seems that Anne could have had a sister. A bit difficult this one ?
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Post by ingliss on Feb 7, 2007 6:04:06 GMT
While looking at Leeswood Past and Present book which Annette put me on to I found out how Thomas Foulkes died, all I knew was that it was late 1871 and he was 38 years of age. This is what is in the book " In 1871 Thomas Foulkes was killed hauling machinery up the shaft at the Coppa. I have heard that there was a collection to buy his wife a mangle so she could take in washing to help support herself and her children" This was written by Colin Astbury who presumably is still alive and living somewhere in the Leeswood area. At the time of his death he had 4 sons and his wife(Anne) later remarried. Does anybody have anymore information regarding this accident.
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