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Post by daveminwyn on Jun 5, 2006 21:12:08 GMT
I'm researching my ancestor George Frederick Wynne. He lived at Plas Gwyn in Minera. He moved to the area around 1878. He became the company secretary for the Minera Mines. He was born in Stafford in 1852. His father was a boot and shoe manufacturer, first in Stafford and then Chester. He invented a camera light meter - "Wynne's Infallible Light Meter. I would like to find more information on his life in Minera. I would appreciate any help. Thank you.
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Post by shedevil on Jun 6, 2006 14:11:05 GMT
Hi Dave and welcome to the forum ;D
I have just had a quick look at the parish registers I have infront of me at the moment which unfortunately is only the baptisms for minera. I have found something quite interesting that could be related only you will know. On the 30th November 1882 there was a George Frederick Wynne Showing as the father of Florence Emily Wynne Born 28/07/1856 (Florence is married at this time and her Surname by marriage is Day) and Mary Hodgson Wynne born 25/05/1889) The mother is named as Margaret. Georges occupation is listed as Boot Manufacturer and his address is listed as 85 Grafton Street Dublin
As i said im not sure whether this is related but boot manufacturer seems to fit. I will have a look at any other info i may have in more detail once i can manage to get to my other books There are quite a few people on the forum here who may have a lot more information as i believe that the name Wynne was quite well known in the area
Tracey
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Post by daveminwyn on Jun 7, 2006 12:24:56 GMT
Hello Tracey
Thank you for your reply to my posting. Very nice to hear from you.
Yes, the baptisms you mention of Florence Emily Wynne and Mary Hodgson Wynne are related, and very interesting news. They are both sisters to George Frederick Wynne (junior). George's father of the same name, who had died in 1880, and his mother margaret Wynne (nee Wright), also mentioned. They did live at 85 Grafton Street in Dublin, and later moved to Shipgate Street in Chester. Interesting that they are baptised at that age. I know that George Frederick Wynne was the church warden of Minera Parish Church from 1881 till 1929. He states in his autobiography which is held in Ruthin Records Centre, that he and his wife Mary Trial wynne (nee Jones) paid for 2 extra bells in 1923, to make the total of ten bells. He states that this gift is recorded on a special tablet on the South West Wall in the church.
I know that George lived in the area for quite some time. He came to Minera in 1878. He became the secretary for The Minera Mining Co. I think he died in 1933. His children are - Winifred, Eleanor, Dorothy, Majorie, and George. as far as I know from the census. So might be more children.
Thank you again.
Dave.
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Post by daveminwyn on Jun 16, 2006 21:28:48 GMT
Hi,
George Frederick Wynne, died in 1933. does any one know if he was burried in Minera church yard. I hope to pay a visit soon - would be nice if I could find his grave.
Dave.
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Post by llosgi calch on Jun 18, 2006 10:36:35 GMT
Interesting to note that GF Wynne is mentioned twice as giving evidence at inquests concerning accidents at Minera Lead Mines in 1896 & 1899.
As noted In Pubs & Inquests, by JC Davies
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Post by sceptrelady on Jun 30, 2006 1:57:48 GMT
Can anyone advise me where I might obtain a copy of Pubs & Inquests by JC Davies? I tried the Star Press but the gentleman that owns it is not well and it is closed presently. No luck upon checking with a couple of book shops in Wrexham and the museum.
thanks Heather
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Post by daveminwyn on Jul 23, 2006 16:43:51 GMT
I paid a visit to Minera on the 13 July. I found the grave of George Frederick Wynne and his wife Mary Trial Wynne (nee Jones). George Frederick Wynne died April 20 1933, aged 80 and his wife Sept 9 the same year, aged 82. Also buried with them are their Daughter Eleanor Margaret Stewart and her husband Douglas Martin Stewart, both died in the 1960's. Also inscribed are- his son George Frederick Meredith Wynne 1895- 1976 and his wife E.A. Mary Wynne 1888 - 1976. Would be interested to hear from any one who knows af any of the above mentioned people.
I very much enjoyed my day in Minera, on a very nice sunny day.
Cheers
Dave Wynne
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Post by llosgi calch on Oct 2, 2006 7:33:07 GMT
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere.... I was in Minera Church recently and spotted a plack(*) on the wall inside in memory of George F. Wynne & his wife Mary & includes dates of when they were active for the church... (* I have to be allowed the odd alcohol induced spelling mistake)
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Post by shedevil on Oct 2, 2006 16:46:42 GMT
oh no not a plague i see Rats Frogs and locust looming over minera only a joke sorry but had to get one over my illiterate friend here he he he Tracey
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Post by daveminwyn on Nov 2, 2006 15:59:19 GMT
Hello, thank you for the information on the Plaque in the Minera Church. I read in George Frederick Wynne's autobiography that they had a Plaque placed in the Church regarding the Church Bells. It's nice to know it is still in place. Do you know when the Church is open so I can see the Plaque myself? Please don't say Sunday Morning!!
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Post by jwynne on Dec 13, 2006 15:57:26 GMT
Does anyone know who George Frederick Wynne's parents were, and where and when he was born?
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Post by daveminwyn on Dec 15, 2006 15:26:56 GMT
Hello
George Frederick Wynne's father was also George Frederick Wynne born in Stafford on the 29 October 1818. His mother Margaret Wynne (nee Wright) born 1819 Hanley, Staffordshire. George and Margaret were married at the Tabernacle Chapel, Hanley, Staffordshire on 23 March 1845.
George Frederick Wynne senior (1818) was the son of John Wynne a large Shoe Manufacturer in Stafford. George himself had his own Shoe Manufactory in Stafford and then later in Chester. He and the family lived at No 2 Shipgate Street in Chester.
George Frederick Wynne senior died 08 September 1880. His wife Margaret died on the 04 November 1887.
If you require any more information please let me know.
Can I ask, are you related to George Frederick Wynne of Minera?
Cheers Dave
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Post by daveminwyn on Dec 15, 2006 15:37:26 GMT
George Federick Wynne junior was born in Stafford on the 01 October 1852. The family moved to Dublin in 1854 and then to Chester in 1858. George frederick Wynne moved to Minera in the December of 1878 and took charge of the secretarial work and wages at the Minera lead Mines. He married his wife Mary Trial Jones on the 04 June 1879. They lived at Plas Gwyn.
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Post by annedw on Jan 6, 2007 18:25:21 GMT
In one of Clifford Davies booklets, there is a section about the Tithe Barn in Minera, Extract as follows `I beleive the barn may have ben used by Mr G F Wynne at sometime because there were hundreds of cases and glasses for his famous `Infallible Hunter Exposure Meter ` lying about there.A little later in the book he says that `Eversley was built in 1910 and Kingsley in 1906. He named them after the writer Rev Charles Kinglsey who was Canon of Chester when Wynne was a choir boyat Chester Cathedral. Dr Kingsley later became Rector of Eversley in Devon.`In the same booklet there is quite a bit more on Mr Wynne, I`ve noticed that there is an autobiography of Mr Wynne so maybe you know it all already.
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Post by Hen Locsin on Jan 8, 2007 22:36:24 GMT
Annette, Yes I remember the Tithe Barn in Minera, although as young boys we were not allowed to enter, but only sneak a peek through the doors when they were opened to enable " Jones the Shop " drive his car out. I recall that this was an immaculate Black Rover and one of the few cars to be seen around the village in the war years and later. The Barn was situated opposite the Old Post Office, in a field on the right as one was traveling up Shepherds Bush Rd.,
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Post by daveminwyn on Feb 10, 2007 17:24:01 GMT
Hello Annette, Thank you for the information on George Frederick Wynne. Interesting to think he would have used the Tithe Barn for his light meters. Possibly a store? I have a few of his meters, my Uncle gave me a meter before I researched into my family history, because we share the same name. It was great to find out later, that I am related to the maker. You say that the booklet has more information on George F Wynne, is the book still in print? I do have a copy of his autobiography. I have copies of some photographs by George F Wynne, of friends and family, but I don't know what he looks like, so would like to identify him. Are there any photographs of him in the book?
Cheers Dave
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Post by Hen Locsin on Feb 10, 2007 21:42:08 GMT
Hi Dave, I can remember G.F & Mary, they had their own pew in the Church, ( I was in the Choir )in the forties; You have probably answerred something that has puzzled me for years. Whilst playing on the river bank, across from the rear of the Slaughter House belonging to Ty Brith, my cousin and I discovered lots of clear glass lenses, which were buried in the river bank. The spot may have been a dumping point for rubbish at some time, and these may well have been rejects or unwanted samples from the Light Meter experiments. Hen Locsin
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Post by shedevil on Feb 11, 2007 9:09:04 GMT
Dave It seems that the Archives at Ruthin hold some information on George Frederick Wynne including a lot of personal papers and Photographs in relation to the 5 Companies he was associated with, Including the Infallible light metre Company It states in the description of the collection that including personal papers it also includes Photographs he may be identified in some of those, Its worth a phone call to find out i suppose the link is www.denbighshire.gov.uk/LL/LifeLong.nsf/336d35c7c1be057d80256a8f003d91d7/3e6be100c4cb309c80256c77003e6d97!OpenDocument
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Post by annedw on Feb 11, 2007 12:46:19 GMT
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Post by annedw on Feb 11, 2007 12:50:40 GMT
The booklets I have are all just ones that Clifford Davies printed himself - I think. It would be very nice to see them all compiled into one . I can scan the pages where F Wynne in mentioned and email them to you if you like. You can send me a personal message with your email address.
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Post by daveminwyn on Feb 17, 2007 18:52:54 GMT
Thank you all for your information on George F Wynne. Sorry I have been a bit busy of late, sellling house etc. Interesting about the glass lenses found on the river bank, it seems he might of made his camera light meters in Minera? He must of made alot of meters as they still turn up on ebay. I know that he had them made in America under licence. I went to the Ruthin record office early last year and have copied some of his photos. I need to go back and look at the rest of the records on George F Wynne. George and Mary both died in 1933, but they had a son George Federick M Wynne so possible he is the one you remember when you was in the choir Hen Locsin, very interesting that you remember them. I very much want to pay a visit to the church in the spring and see inside and look at the plaque with their name on.
Cheers Dave Wynne
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Post by hilary on Feb 20, 2007 0:19:41 GMT
Hi,
Is there any chance that an R Wynne might be related? On 24th Jone 1908 he was visiting Brymbo and planning to travel on business to Mold before returning home to his wife and children at Buckley.
Hilary
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Post by daveminwyn on Feb 22, 2007 20:54:18 GMT
Hello Hilery
Thanks for that information. I have not found anyone in the family tree with a christian name begining with an R. So not sure about the R Wynne you mention, but you never know as I have recently discovered, thanks to Annette, that his son George Federick Meredith Wynne: 1895 - 1976, was known as Eric Wynne. Does anyone remember Eric Wynne?
Dave
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Post by annedw on Feb 23, 2007 12:22:12 GMT
There `s some records in Ruthin Archives, presumably the same `Eric` , Strange they are not in his full name. www.rootschat.com/links/01a2/Are you near enought to Wrexham to look for obituaries, how are you descended from GF Wynne ??
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Post by daveminwyn on Feb 23, 2007 20:45:48 GMT
Hello Annette
Thanks for your email with more information on G F Wynne. I will have to go to Ruthin and see what they have on Eric. I have seen a collection of his photographs in Ruthin but did not pay too much attention as I did not know who he was. My relation to G F Wynne is: His grandfather was John Wynne of Stafford, he was a shoe manufacturer. John Wynne is my 3 times great grandfather, I think I've worded that correctly. G F Wynne's father also G F Wynne has his name on the death certificate of John Wynne, who was his father. So I traced back on this line and so ended up in Minera. The nice connection was that I had already been given a G F Wynne Camera Light Meter by my uncle, so I was great to find that I was related to its maker! Hope you can understand this.
Cheers Dave.
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Post by annedw on Jul 11, 2008 16:39:59 GMT
Found this in the Times. Friday Aug 10 1951 FORTHCOMING MARRIAGES LEUITENANT C R WYNNE R.N AND MISS J PARIS. The engagemant is announced between Christoper Robin, only son of Mr & Mrs G F M Wynne , Minera, Wrexham and Joan eldest daughter of Mr & Mrs L F Paris, Minstead, Lyndhurst, Hampshire.
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