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Post by pamela29 on Jul 1, 2006 20:03:44 GMT
From reading the message boards, i am pleased to say that i am also looking for further information regarding the Carringtons.In particular the line from Moses Carrington.he married a Harriet Williams.Harriets sister ,Sarah married John Carrington who ran the Cross Foxes public House for some time (One or two of their children, one called Llewlyn and another brother emigrated to South Afdrica,but don't know where or when,any information on them?). Sarah and Harriets father William Williams used to be publican/manager of the Minera Arms for a while. I know that Moses daughter Jane was the last of this particular line to reside in Coedpoeth.Does anuone know of any relatives connected with Jane.(I think Jane died approx 1947).Jane had a sister Sarah Carrington who married a George Maddocks.Is there anyone out there who has links to the Maddocks family. Also at 1901,there is a grandaughter called Alice Carrington living with Moses and Harriet.I have tried to find her birth certificate but unable to locate.Does anyone have any information as to what happend to Alice?If anyone has any further information on both families,do let me know. Thank you for any help that you may be able to provide. regards Pam
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Post by annedw on Jul 3, 2006 14:53:53 GMT
In 1901 census Llewelyn Carrington, aged 33 born Coedpoeth is the hotelier of the Cross Foxes, High St. Coedpoeth. Also in the household ; Louisa Maud Carrington aged 29 born Wrexham , his wife. John Percy aged 5 born Coedpoeth , son. Elizabeth Jane Jones aged 24 domestic cook b Coedpoeth Ellinor Maud Jones aged 21 Barmaid. b Coedpoeth Louisa Alice Jones aged 19 Housemaid born Seacombe The last entry Louisa Alice Jones was my grandmother, she died in 1903 when my Dad was nine weeks old. Hope the Carrington details are of use.
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Post by pamela29 on Jul 3, 2006 16:03:32 GMT
Hello Annette Thank you for those details.Do you know anything about Llewlyn Carrington going to South Africa? Did he ever come back to Wales? From another relative who used to stay with Aunt Jane,she said she remembers a photograph of Llewlyn standing with maybe animal skins (may be catch of the day!!) on Aunt Janes sideboard.We don't know what happened to Aunt Janes things when she died. Do you have a copy of this photograph?Any other information that you can provide i would be grateful for. Thank you regards Pam
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Post by annedw on Jul 3, 2006 20:29:16 GMT
I am not related to the Carringtons. I have found John and Sarah at the Cross foxes in 1881 when Llewelyn is 13, but I`m sure you already have that. The only other things are that Llewelyn was born Dec qtr 1867 and married Louisa Maud Lewis in June qtr 1895. I expect you have that as well!. The electoral rolls should tell you when Llewelyn was in the Cross Foxes and you can work out when he moved by a change in the name of the resident. I can`t find him in the Free BMD death index, but they are not complete so can`t be relied on. Sorry to not be of much help. Annette
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Post by shedevil on Jul 4, 2006 9:56:05 GMT
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Post by sceptrelady on Jul 5, 2006 17:39:41 GMT
Hi Pam Although the 1901 census gives Alice's birthplace as Coedpoeth, the 1891 census shows Alice Carrington's birth place listed as Little Bolton Lancs. A BMD search shows an Alice Carrington born 3Q 1889 in Chorley district Lancashire Vol 8e page 551. However I searched Alice Carringtons from 1889 on the IGI and it shows one result with parents Richard & Elizabeth Carrington so she may not be the one at all.
Heather
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Post by pamela29 on Jul 8, 2006 20:21:56 GMT
Hello Heather Thank you for your help.I did send for the birth certificate for Alice Carrington in the Chorley reg district and you are correct the parents are Richard and Elizabeth carrington.Richards profession is a canal boatman.So as you say, not the one that i am looking for.I can only assume that Alice was given a different surname, but brought up stating that her name was Carrington. Thanks again. Pam
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Post by pamela29 on Jul 8, 2006 20:22:48 GMT
Hello Tracey Thank you for your help on this one, i shall be investigating further. Pam
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Post by pamela29 on Jul 8, 2006 20:23:36 GMT
Hi Annette OOpps. i must get new glasses!! Sorry,but thank you for your help anyway. regards Pam
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Post by sceptrelady on Jul 15, 2006 4:07:43 GMT
Pam
Have found a Martha Alice Carrington 4Q 1888 registered Bolton, Lancs 8C page 450. Maybe she went by middle name?? I checked IGI but no record.
Hope this helps Heather
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Post by pamela29 on Jul 22, 2006 16:57:50 GMT
Hi Heather Sorry for not getting back to you sooner,i have noted this one, but as the birth was not in quite the correct area, i dismissed it.Thank you for taking time to look. regards Pam
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Post by sceptrelady on Jul 23, 2006 7:55:06 GMT
Hi Pam Your welcome - after all she's my relative too! Is there that much difference between Little Bolton and Bolton? don't know my geography very well Heather
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Post by night_watch on Jul 23, 2006 9:02:21 GMT
Little Bolton is part of Eccles just west of Manchester so its about 10 miles from Bolton. I had a look on old-maps and on multi map. It appears to be in the the area of Hope hospital and as Weaste cemetry is near-by this could well be were they are buried.
Hope this helps in your research
David
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Post by Rhiannon on Oct 11, 2006 16:19:36 GMT
I'm confused, which John Carrington was born 1829 Bersham married to a Margaret born 1830 Minera, they have 5 children, Francis, Anne, Alice, John and Aaron. John was a Fireman in the 1881 census and living at High Street Coedpoeth. what John is this one ? I thought he was my one but if John Carrington who was married to Sarah is my one, then where does this fella fit in. Please help!
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Post by annedw on Nov 10, 2006 15:03:15 GMT
All these Carringons are very confusing ;D I`ve been to Coedpoeth Cemetery this afternoon to put a poppy on the Wilcoxon grave. ( there was also another new one there, I have no idea who puts them, it may be Elfed Lewis ,who lives nearby. perhaps Llosgi can find out ) Anyway back to the Carringtons. A couple of graves away from mine are buried John Carrington, 1829-1902. Margaret 1829-1899, and I think it may be a son John 1867-1898. They were noted as being of the Star Shop. The cemetery attendant told me that is where the Star Printers is now, .There is also a Carrington -J ones grave, very impressive. He showed me another grave , a Thomas Jones, who was related to the C`s , he wrote a famous hymn, and the grave stone has a musical theme, a clef ? and the five lines. I can`t think of the right word . Apparently there are lot of Carrington graves there. I didn`t have a note pad to write it all down properly, I should know by now to always take one when visiting a cemetery. He said if I came back he would show me the graves. Anyway after all this rambling I hope this rings a bell to somebody. PS, Very brass monkeys up there today
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Post by Rhiannon on Nov 10, 2006 21:42:37 GMT
Hello Anntetteedwards,
Thank you for sharing this information I do believe that John, Margaret and their son John are my ones as their birth dates correspond with what I've already got, but to be honest I didn't have their death dates so this is good news as now I can enter the details into my family tree.
If you do go back to the cemetery can I be cheeky and ask if you can see what other Carringtons are there, I would love to be able to fill in any dates that I have missing.
Sorry to be ignorant but what well known hymn did he write ?
Thank you once again.
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Post by sceptrelady on Nov 16, 2006 4:11:12 GMT
Hello everyone Am looking to solve a mystery re John Carrington 1795 - 1865? His wife was Barbara JONES, John was father to Francis Carrington 1828-1891. Anyway in my quest for certificates, I sent off for a death cert for a John Carrington 1865, thinking he would be the right one. Instead I got one for a John Carrington dead of liver disease age 26 from Pentre Broughton. If anyone is related to him please let me know and I will gladly mail them the certificate. Barbara died a widow in 1868 but I cannot find another John Carrington from either North Wales BMD or Ancestry. Either he never died or his death is recorded under the wrong name or in a totally different area. Next time anyone visits the Coedpoeth cemetary, could I ask for a quick look round for any likely suspects?? Thanks Heather PS I've sent off a copy of the Carrington tree to Pam, Rhiannon & peter. It is still a work in progress as I need to verify the early dates with parish registers etc. But if anyone else would like a copy or a copy in GED format, please email.
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Post by pamela29 on Dec 4, 2006 19:12:06 GMT
Hello Annette
Sorry, i haven't been on this site for some time now. Thank you for letting me know about the graves. I went to the cemetery approx 18 months ago. I found some graves for Carrington and have written the details down. I have found the gravestone for my great great grandmother and father. I took photos of it, so if anyone needs a copy ,please feel free to ask. I also took copies of the stones in the Rebothel Chapel. (Has that been pulled down yet?) The only grave i couldn't find was for a Jane Carrington who died in Jan 1947, so if you come across that one, i would be grateful for the information.
There are other Carringtons who are buried in St Marys at Minera. These particular Carringtons are the ones who owned/ran the Cross Foxes Public House. Thank you again for your help. Pam
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Post by annedw on Dec 28, 2006 10:46:52 GMT
I came across this, on some methodist site,it must be the T Jones I mentioned before. I don`t know how he is linked to the Carringtons, but the printing and bookshop is a clue. Thomas Jones(Canrhawdfardd; 1823-1904), preacher, printer, and musician; b. 2 July 1823 at Bwlch-y-creigiau, near Nannerch, Flints., the son of John and Mary Jones. He learned to read music when quite young; when only 16 he led the singing in the local Wesleyan chapel. He also started to hold music classes in the districts surrounding his home. In 1849 he began to preach with the Wesleyans; in 1851 he moved to a place near Holywell and, from there, to Lixwm. In 1864 he is found at Coedpoeth, near Wrexham, where he had a bookshop and a printing establishment. He won several prizes for his music compositions, some of his anthems in particular gaining much popularity. He published a number of books containing hymn-tunes, anthems, carols, etc., and edited other musical works. He d. 26 Oct. 1904, and was buried in Coed-poeth cemetery. Ceitho; M. O. Jones, Byw. Cerdd. Cymr.; Y Cerddor, Jan. 1905.
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