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Post by tominera on Jan 11, 2009 18:55:06 GMT
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Post by eluned on Jan 12, 2009 9:31:20 GMT
Hi Tom, Perhaps a look in the local paper for the wedding Maybe worth a shot but this would only show Wrexham marriages of course. I checked the index for Arthur Ellis to Charlotte and also Charlotte Evans and Ellis to Arthur with no result. But Arthur Evans to Charlotte gave 2x marriages in the Sept 1/4to Charlotte Bullthingy in Stockport ;D ;D ;D she isn't actually called Bull thingy but it wont let me put her correct name. Its a young bull but with a "C" in it ;D ;D ;D and Charlotte Jones in St AsaphDo these names mean anything?
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Post by tominera on Jan 12, 2009 11:18:52 GMT
Hi Lynn, The name sounds great !!! but they do not ring a bell with me--Thanks anyway Tom
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Post by tominera on Aug 6, 2011 14:33:52 GMT
Hi Here is a pic of the vase which I failed to identify I also failed to find William David in 1901 & 1911 Census I just thought there may have been an Arthur in his family?--Rubbish at this game really ;D Attachments:
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Post by annedw on Aug 7, 2011 13:28:22 GMT
Cheshire Marriage indexes 1932 BULCO-CK Charlotte / EVANS Arthur North Reddish, St Agnes ,Stockport
Births Jun 1933 Wrexham Evans Kenneth MMN Bulco-ck Wrexham 11b 345
Births Dec 1935 Evans Arthur MMN Bulco-ck Wrexham 11b 315
Births Sep 1902 Bulco-ck Charlotte Chester 8a 389
Looks like these may be the son of Arthur and Charlotte that Eluned found. They are the only matches all districts with that surname.
But Arthur Evans to Charlotte gave 2x marriages in the Sept 1/4 to Charlotte Bullthingy in Stockport she isn't actually called Bullthingy but it wont let me put her correct name. Its a young bull but with a "C" in it
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Post by annedw on Aug 7, 2011 15:21:38 GMT
Family search result Name: Charlotte Bulco-ck Event: Census , Event Date: 1911 Age: 8 Birthplace: Chester, Cheshire Registration District: Stockport Sub-district: Stockport Third. Parish: Reddish Charlotte Bulco-ck Event: Christening ,Event Date: 14 Aug 1902 Event Place: St Paul, Chester, Cheshire, England Father: Alfred Bulco-ck Mother: Elizabeth Ann Marriages Mar 1896 Bulco-ck Alfred Rochdale 8e 8 Michell Elizabeth Adelaide Rochdale 8e 8 Whitehead Elizabeth Ann Rochdale 8e 8 Tom, do you have the names of William David`s parents. Any bells ringing yet ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tominera on Aug 8, 2011 13:34:31 GMT
Hi, Thanks for input & poss info. but I am sorry I do not have David's fathers name--His marriage was a civil one in Wrexham (No family arguements ;D) Sep Q and I do not have a copy of Marr Cert.----I did notice a William David Evans born Sep Q 1893 Wrexham but could not find any positives in 1901 & 1911 Census Thanks Tom
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Post by annedw on Aug 13, 2011 13:19:36 GMT
;D ;D ;D
16th July 1932 at St Agnes, Reddish Name: Arthur Evans, aged: 34, Condition: Bachelor, Occupation: Haulage Driver, Place of Residence at the time of Marriage: Bwlchgwyn , Nant Rd, Coedpoeth, Wrexham. Father's name: Robert Evans (Deceased), Occupation: Steel Worker. Name: Charlotte Bulco-ck, aged: 30, Condition: Spinster, No profession noted, Place of residence at the time of Marriage: 397 Gorton Road, Father: Alfred Bulco-ck Occupation: Moulder (?)
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Post by annedw on Aug 13, 2011 13:26:13 GMT
Maybe ? 1901 RG13; Piece: 5221; Folio: 74; Page: 7 41 High St Brymbo Robert Evans widr 36 coal hewer b Denbigh Robert J Evans 9 son b Brymbo David Evans 7 "" Arthur Evans 3 ""
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Post by tominera on Aug 13, 2011 17:30:01 GMT
Hi Annette, That is brilliant---I will look for 1911 now and try to verify if possible--Thanks for all your hard work tracing this Tom 1911 Census Robert EVANS 45yrs. marr. 10yrs born Denbigh,Denbighs-Labourer in Steelworks living in 2 Blast Rd. Brymbo Elizabeth EVANS 52 yrs born Llangollen David EVANS son 18 yrs cutter/coal miner Ioan EDWARDS stepson 16 yrs Arthur EVANS son 14 yrs Lavinia EDWARDS stepdaughter 13 yrs William Eric EDWARDS stepson 11 yrs Margaret Alice EVANS daughter 9 yrs-all born Brymbo- There is plenty to work on now ;D ;D Tom
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Post by tominera on Aug 14, 2011 17:18:48 GMT
Hi, Thanks everyone--I have decided to put all this info in Family tree and maybe I will match more names up etc. Thanks again and I do believe it has solved the mystery of Arthur & Charlotte--- ;D -Tom
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Post by tominera on Aug 18, 2011 14:35:39 GMT
Hi, Having resolved Arthur & Charlotte I would now like to know the Names of Arthur & David's' mother (please) who had died before the 1901 census, also the Christian name of Elizabeth Edwards's husband who had died before the 1901 census. RG13/5221 F36 P27 & P28 23 Llewelyn Rd.Brymbo EDWARDS Elizabeth Wid. 41 born Llangollen EDWARDS Robert T 14 born Llangollen EDWARDS John W 11 born America EDWARDS Sarah E 9 born Wrexham, Denbs. EDWARDS Tom M 7 born Wrexham, Denbs. EDWARDS Ioan 5 born Wrexham, Denbs. EDWARDS Lavinia 3 born Wrexham, Denbs. Edwards William E 1 born Wrexham, Denbs. Tricky one I realise but you never know someone may be able to crack it-----Thanks Tom
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Post by eluned on Aug 18, 2011 17:39:54 GMT
1891 Pugh's Row, Brymbo RG12; Piece: 4616; Folio 47; Page 26 Ann Williams 54 John Evans 50 Robert Evans boarder 26 b.Denbigh John Humphreys 22 All single So he married after the 1891 census which was taken that year on 5 Apr but possibly before the birth of son Robert J. This is if he is indeed he is the son of Robert and not illegitimate son of unknown wife and if they actually married in Wrexham. ;D Birth reg Wrexham Robert John Evans Dec 1/4 1891 Marriages reg after Apr 1891 Jun 1/4 Civil Robert Evans to Jane Jones Sep 1/4 Civil Robert Evans/Joseph Foulkes Griffiths to Hannah Jarvis/Mary Parry There are a couple living in Brymbo namely Joseph and Hannah Griffiths You could always by the cert Tom! ;D
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Post by tominera on Aug 18, 2011 18:35:52 GMT
Hi Lynn, Thanks--It is a very good starting point and who knows what may turn up---Tom
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Post by tominera on Aug 22, 2011 19:14:13 GMT
I have found these burials in Plot 491 Coedpoeth Cemetery EDWARDS Robert Trevor age 39 yrs bur 20 5 1926 EDWARDS Ellen age 44 yrs bur 14 10 1929 EVANS Arthur aged 3 days bur 20 12 1935 EVANS Elizabeth aged 80 yrs bur 5 10 1940 EVANS Robert aged 51 yrs bur 18 12 1916----The dob for Elizabeth & Robert are spot on so it does not help to establish the names of their previous spouses. I will need to find some baptisms of their respective children if possible but I do not know when I will get around to that, The child Arthur is the son of Arthur & Charlotte
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Post by annedw on Aug 22, 2011 21:26:19 GMT
Hi, Having resolved Arthur & Charlotte I would now like to know the Names of Arthur & David's' mother (please) who had died before the 1901 census, also the Christian name of Elizabeth Edwards's husband who had died before the 1901 census. RG13/5221 F36 P27 & P28 23 Llewelyn Rd.Brymbo EDWARDS Elizabeth Wid. 41 born Llangollen EDWARDS Robert T 14 born Llangollen EDWARDS John W 11 born America EDWARDS Sarah E 9 born Wrexham, Denbs. EDWARDS Tom M 7 born Wrexham, Denbs. EDWARDS Ioan 5 born Wrexham, Denbs. EDWARDS Lavinia 3 born Wrexham, Denbs. Edwards William E 1 born Wrexham, Denbs. Tricky one I realise but you never know someone may be able to crack it-----Thanks Tom Could it be these. 1891 RG12; Piece: 3368; Folio 42; Page 35 33 Carr St, Lancashire , Habergham Eaves William Edwards 39 blacksmiths lab Llangollen Elizabeth Edwards 31 b Llangollen Annie Ellen Edwards 7 b " May Louisa Edwards 5 b " Robert Trevor Edwards 4 b " John Wm Edwards 1 b Pennsylvania America. Robert Roberts Bro 19 loom maker b Llangollen ( could be brother in law ?) Deaths Jun 1899 EDWARDS William 47 Wrexham 11b 210 Marriages Dec 1881 Edwards William Corwen 11b 613 ROBERTS Elizabeth / CARROLL Ann
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Post by annedw on Aug 23, 2011 7:18:28 GMT
Daughter Annie Ellen may have stayed in Lancashire.
1901 RG13; Piece: 3837; Folio: 15; Page: 21. name as Katson 7 Shawclough Road,Rochdale . Richard Watson 46 silk manufacturer b Rochdale Anne Watson 46 wife b " Edward Watson 12 son b " Annie E Edwards 17 servant b Llangollen
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Post by tominera on Aug 23, 2011 18:39:57 GMT
Hi Thanks for that----I will be putting most of it in and having the name of William Edwards will be a great help. ;D All I really need now is the name of Robert Evans's (b1866) first wife---I would be able to put it to bed then - I have checked Coedpoeth & Minera Cemetery for William Edwards burial but with no success.---Tom
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