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Post by ago on May 1, 2024 18:43:58 GMT
bought a book of north wales and up pops a post lady sybil davies, looks like the top of bwlchgwyn, Attachments:
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Post by naomipalmer on Feb 7, 2024 13:05:51 GMT
I’m a historian from Swansea University and for a few months have been researching the story of the ‘Lost Choir’ of the 1915 Eisteddfod in Bangor where 2 battalions of the RWF (16th and 17th) competed in the male voice choir competition. A member of the Great War forum and the Royal Welch Fusiliers forum recommended this forum to me. In the 1917 Eisteddfod in Birkenhead, one the choirs (the 17th battalion) was invited back and it was announced that their conductor, Lance Corporal Samuel Evans (of Rhosllanerchrugog/Penycae) was in attendance and was the only surviving member of the winning choir. This story has been repeated for over a century but it isn’t true, the 16th battalion were the winners and there were several members of the 17th battalion (and 16th) choir(s) that were still alive by the time of the Eisteddfod in Birkenhead in 1917. I have discovered several names and believe that these men were from the 17th battalion (2nd North Wales), a number would have been in ‘B’ company. Newspaper articles of the time (attached articles from Y Brython, 27 September 1917, and Y Llan, 28 September 1917) contain the names of some of the choir members still alive in 1917, most of whom were from/living in and around the Wrexham area, but with some having fairly common names and currently without regimental numbers it's proving difficult to trace these men. I have details for two (W.O. Williams (William Owen Williams) and Emrys Williams) but the others are proving a bit difficult. The conductor of the 17th battalion choir, Private (later Lance Corporal) Samuel Evans was from Rhosllanerchrugog, but by 1917 was noted as living in Penycae, and from what I can find, was the organist at Tai Nant Chapel in Penycae. He was injured during the war in 1916. The purpose of all this is that there is a possibility, if more details can be found/confirmed, the stories of some of these men can be shared at the Eisteddfod in 2025 which is being held in Wrexham. I'm hopeful that some readers will know more about the story of the choir/choirs or are possibly descendants of the members. Although I have been focusing on the choir of the 17th battalion, any information about members of the 16th battalion choir would also be extremely valuable. (Also attached is a possible image (although confirmation is needed) of the 17th battalion choir - this image is used in a Welsh-language documentary, Lleisiau'r Rhyfel Mawr (Voices of the Great War) (Cwmni Da, 2008) when the story of the choir is presented).
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Post by eluned on Jan 11, 2024 13:56:35 GMT
Happy New Year everyone. I still pop in now and then Annedw
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Post by frankm on Jan 11, 2024 12:37:24 GMT
Thanks for the good wishes. All the best to you and your family and all our friends here on the forum. While not an early member, not as active as in the past mainly due to the great help I received from you and other members. I do try to help where I can but the opportunities are not frequent as posts are few and far between.
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Post by annedw on Dec 31, 2023 16:35:18 GMT
I must admit I don't visit as much as I used to but am here again looking at old posts. Some of the original and early members don't seem to be "active" now and I'm wondering whether they will see this post. If you do, then it would be nice to hear from you all again. Happy New Year.
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Post by hengoed on Nov 18, 2023 18:54:12 GMT
Hi Adwylad, I assume thats Coedpoeth...! My mum was from the Adwy (Glenys Williams) My step- taid Tecwyn Jones was the "sampler" at the blast furnace. Anyway, I grew up in the Lodge which was below the works, when the slag was tipped out at night the whole of the Lodge lit up ( of course we kids were in bed by 7pm) great memories of walking "through" the steel works tunnel to Brymbo juniors if we missed the bus.
Paul.
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Post by hengoed on Nov 18, 2023 18:47:36 GMT
Its a shame I am Overseas I worked there from 1974 to 76. At the training School {Cambrian House} and also The Smithy.
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Post by reedy78 on Oct 12, 2023 21:00:14 GMT
Hi,I know David and Ann Foulkes Coedpoeth, their Grandfather was Edward Foulkes,Grandmother was Myfanwy.
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Post by linda25g on Sept 10, 2023 15:13:17 GMT
Hi. As it says on the original post it was on the item description on Ebay. I didn't find it, the seller must have, he does say "my research " Perhaps there is more online since 2015. 🙂 Hi and thank you I read that part of the original post as 2 separate statements sorry I can find nothing to say he was awarded an MBE, his great-niece is a friend of mine and they weren't aware he had. Also, there is nothing in the death notice, probate, or obituary to say so
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Post by annedw on Sept 10, 2023 13:05:02 GMT
Hi. As it says on the original post it was on the item description on Ebay. I didn't find it, the seller must have, he does say "my research " Perhaps there is more online since 2015. 🙂
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Post by linda25g on Sept 10, 2023 10:24:42 GMT
I know this is an old thread but if you are still around annedw, I'd be interested to find out where you read about Fred's MBE
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Post by sirryan on Aug 20, 2023 16:13:22 GMT
I'm related to the Sontleys of Marchwiel, Denbighshire. Also the Pulestans. I have done some research and found out they're related to Tudor Trefor and the kings of Gwynedd. My 9 x great grandfather Robert Sontley – Born Abt. 1610 – Marchwiel, Denbighshire, Wales. Died Abt. 1654 – Shropshire, England. Married – Ursula Corbet on 18 Nov 1641, In Longnor, Shropshire, England. They also married into the Powneys of Berkshire. It's quite the fascinating history. I am enjoying reading the topics and I have registered and hope to talk about these topics more.
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Post by jonesbwlchgwn on Jul 30, 2023 20:10:51 GMT
Thank for taking the time to reply, and for the information. I am in North Wales in September, so will take a look. Thanks again.
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Post by piercepierce on Jul 11, 2023 22:22:39 GMT
There is a farm called Pen Y Nant about 3 or 4 miles from Nant y Ffrith. It is situated on a side road/lane near to Bedwen Lodge off Ffordd Llanarmon which is off the A5104.
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Post by jonesbwlchgwn on Jul 1, 2023 10:41:43 GMT
Hi. I'm fairly new to this family research thing. My grandmother was born in Bwlchgwyn in 1894. Her father was Hugh Jones born around 1864. On the census of 1871, Hugh's mother Jemima Jones is shown as living at Nant, in the Civil Parish of Hope and the Ecclesiastical District of Llanfywydd. Hugh's mother is 44 and recorded as a farmers widow. I do not know Hugh's fathers name yet. In the Census of 1881, Hugh is recorded as a blacksmith, living with his mother and siblings at Pen y Nant. One of the Census entries on the previous page has recorded the village as Nant-y-ffrith which is a very short distance from Bwlchgwyn. Is any familiar with a small farm or property called Pen y Nant in the area? Many thanks.
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Post by joycie on Jun 16, 2023 14:26:15 GMT
When I lived in the Wern 1947 to 1963 The family of Wood where living in CAE Mynydd Desmond Elsie Terry and a daughter during some of this time
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Post by annedw on May 29, 2023 15:12:15 GMT
What records do you have for them as being married. If you can't find a marriage, how do you know it was in Wrexham 🙂
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Post by annedw on May 29, 2023 15:10:20 GMT
What records do you have for them as being married.
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Post by joan on Apr 3, 2023 18:11:25 GMT
Harriet Selina Edwards born.19/04/1877 married Robert Lewis Jones 1887 in Wrexham.Robert died in 1924. Harriet then married a John Morgan in Wrexham I àm unsure when.Then moved as a widow after John Morgans death.To Birkenhead early 1930s.I cannot find any trace of this marriage.Can anyone help me please
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Post by shottongirl50 on Jul 8, 2022 15:35:18 GMT
Hi, The Welsh side of my family are from the Coedpoeth/Bersham area, Halkyn Mountain in Flintshire and the Wrexham area. Ellis Williams (1861-1919) was my great-grandfather. He was originally from Hope but married Jane Salisbury of Bersham in 1888. I am the granddaughter of Edith, his daughter by his first marriage. He also had two children by his second wife (Eliza Jones 1867-1904), Myfanwy and William A. Eliza's illegitimate son Edward Samuel Jones was added to the family and took the last name Williams until adulthood. After Eliza Jones died Ellis married Eliza (Davies) Williams, and her son by her first husband, Jonathon, William E., became Ellis's stepson. In addition she and Ellis had three children together, Dora Mae, Wilfred and Arthur. My grandmother told me she lived for a time as a child with her grandmother in a pub near Wrexham. Jane's mother had already died. Ellis was illegitimate and brought up by his uncle Thomas Roberts (whose name he took temporarily as a child). I've not been able to find anything on Mary Williams, his mother, after his baptism. I think she may have moved out of the area. So Edith was probably just told that the woman who took care of her was her grandmother. However, I am wondering whether there was another family connection. Ellis would have needed care for Edith between 1893, when Jane died, and 1896 when he married Eliza Jones. Interestingly, Myfanwy, Edith's sister, worked for Eleanor Williams at the Crown Inn in Talwrn in 1909 and lived there until she got married. However, Eleanor was Eleanor Owens from Llandegla and I don't think we are related. I also couldn't find any link for Elizabeth Salisbury of the Gladstone Arms or the Jane Parry also mentioned in prior posts, even though both names are 'in the family.' I was so pleased to find this site and the fascinating information on it, and would love to get any more information about my ancestors. I grew up on Deeside but have been in the US for almost fifty years. I do remember my Dad taking us on family drives up in the area, but I don't remember a lot of details. However, there was a topiary sign of a town name that I've never forgotten I know it's not there anymore because we drove by the place on a visit years ago. The town began with 'Pen'. I'd like to hear about that too if anyone remembers it. Thanks, Helen.
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Post by gallanders on Jun 26, 2022 16:18:24 GMT
Hi new to this site - long shot but I am looking for a Grandfather link on my mother's side. My mum was born in Castle House, Greenfield, Coedpoeth in 1920. Her mother Maggie Gwilym Jones had 6 brothers all with surname 'Gwilym-Jones'. The family came from Maentwrog Ffestiniog. Their Parents name was Hugh Gwilym Jones and Elen Jones. Did anyone hear family conversation in the past that may link someone in their family to Maggie Gwilym Jones - my mums name was Maisie. If it is a family secret yiu want to share private let me know
Thanks in advance
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Post by RhosRobin on Apr 20, 2022 5:51:00 GMT
Hi Sue - Jane Owens is my Great-grandaunt, her father (Owen Owens, aka Owen-y-go of the Five Crosses pub), being my 2nd Great Grandfather on my mum's side (my mum being Joyce Owens).
Regards, Dave Reeves
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Post by eluned on Mar 7, 2022 16:03:29 GMT
Hi and welcome Please can you confirm when your Grandfather John Evans was born plus his occupation and if you have this, details of a census where you have found him living with his Father Thomas. Regards Eluned
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Post by hgk on Mar 5, 2022 7:46:19 GMT
Thank you for your reply Tony. Yes, the Wynne family certainly seems to have been many in number. I have not yet come across your family's names in my search, but perhaps I shall find a link further back from which I can make a link through siblings for example.
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Post by uksearch on Mar 2, 2022 18:08:13 GMT
Hello bromg, my gg grandfather was also John Marshall Barlow. Happy to share info, please send a pm.
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Post by RhosRobin on Feb 26, 2022 7:52:56 GMT
Owen Owens (Owen-y-go) of the Five Crosses PH is my Great Great Grandfather. My Mother was Joyce Owens (married to Maurice Reeves), my Grandfather was Iowerth Owens, and my Great Grandfather being Edward Owens.
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Post by lizatquibou on Feb 16, 2022 17:57:58 GMT
I am hoping someone may be able to help me discover my Father’s family who were centred round Esclusham. Sadly I didn’t ask the questions when I could and now, well in my 70’s I am the one being asked the questions and am unable to supply the answers. I live in France and sadly I am unable to come and do my own investigating at the moment. I have a vague outline of when but I cannot fathom out the ‘where’s, I would like to know if the place names add up if you can understand me! Also so many John Evans, Thomas Evans, John Jones etc somewhat defeats me.
I will briefly out line what I do know, my Father was born in Liverpool in 1898 and his father, John Evans was also born in Liverpool however his father helpfully, Thomas Evans, was born in Denbighshire and I believe somewhere roughly in the area between Llanynys, Bachymbyd and Esclusham, I have no names for his parents. It is Great-grandfather Thomas I am anxious to trace. My father often talked about often staying with his cousins at Ffronhuelog, he broke his back falling from a motorbike owned by them, this would have been about 1912 I imagine. I don’t know the names of the cousins.
For certain I know a cousin, (Eleanor) Nellie Jones was born at Lower Cottage, Esclusham Below in 1893 to John and Elizabeth Jones(Lunt), Dad was close to Nellie who married Oswald Nicolls and who died in 1976. Her father John was widowed and according to the 1911 census he and Nellie were staying at Ffronhuelog Hall as Brother-in-Law and Niece of Robert Sauvage (Savage) and his wife Annie - this fits with my Dad’s memories of staying there with his cousins. John Jones is stated to have been born in Esclusham and Boarding House keeper in Esclusham and I presume Annie Savage was his sister. This I know but what I cannot fathom out is where John Evans, Farmer his wife, possibly Elizabeth Jones and son, Great-Grandfather Thomas who was possibly Elizabeth Jones fits with all this - I just know it does!
The only other clue I have is a Thomas Evans on the 1941 census, aged 9 as a male servant to another Thomas Evans a Miller at Llanynys, Bachymbyd which suggests he was orphaned - I don’t know - I hope you can help please!
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Post by piercepierce on Feb 11, 2022 1:26:10 GMT
24/1/1931 : 5 men were working on a repair shift on a Saturday afternoon, they were preparing a roof to set a girder, the place was extremely wet and steel sheeting had been set to protect the men from dripping water. 2 men had been sent to fetch a pit prop. Suddenley there was a massive fall approximately 250 tons which buried and killed 3 men immediately. A rescue party was formed, working through the night it took over 12 hours to extricate the dead men.
Frank Lea 36 years Fireman, John Lewis 67 Byeman, Thomas Owen Jones, 47 Byeman. Source Plas Power Colliery - Welsh Coal Mines. Note : A Byeman was employed under ground but not at the coal face, paid by the day, generally on repair work or getting material other than coal
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Post by befriender on Jan 9, 2022 17:57:42 GMT
Hi Bluedog and welcome Unfortunately Julie never returned to the site after her post. Please let us know if we can help with your research eluned my mother was Rosina who was born 31 July 1918.there was a newspaper with news of accident at plas power colliery Im not which newspaper that was. It had a pictures of who had died. My grandmother Laura Joneswas interviewed in it
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Post by befriender on Jan 9, 2022 17:51:33 GMT
Baptisms in Salem Chapel, Coedpoeth--Parents Thomas Owen Jones and Laura. Mary Louisa b.6 1 1911 ba. 14 2 1911-16 Williams Row Gwladys May b. 9 2 1913 ba. 12 3 1913-12 The Terrace Wilfred b. 28 2 1914 ba. 6 5 1914-15 Terrace Emlyn b. 18 6 1916 ba. 13 7 1916-38 Llofft Wen, Adwy Rosina b. 31 7 1916 ba. 4 9 1918-38 Llofft Wen Cottages Dorothy Margaret 11 10 1922 ba. 4 12 1922-3 Heol Hyfrydle Victoria Terrace, Minera was always referred to as "The Terrace" by locals. Regards Tom
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